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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
 Posted - 09 October 2011 : 4:53:43 PM
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Time is drawing near and as with most title events we usually insult, deride, intimidate and b/s each other until the first race.
So - El presso rang the other day - informs me that he is going well both in health and in his sailing - some boats have changed hands and are building their pace.
Kokomo went out again on the weekend and was the 1st E26 home by a hansome distance! the other guys are sailing really well too - except for poor old H&C still tugging on her mooring awaiting a new owner to flog all and sundry.
Nothing heard of any Lake Mac sailing? although I'm sure there will be a decent fleet being sent south to do battle - I'm sure they would not be just sitting back waiting for the next one on home waters - no they will represent????!!!
Don't know how Clewless is going (well I expect)or if indeed there are any other Endeavours on the cess sorry Sydney Harbour - yes yes the Hagar dudes will be there fighting it out with, with, with, a 28 or two I suppose 
JC n big Stew will be there i guess hurling the Dumberesque about - that just about covers all the Harbour boats - unless YOU own one, read this and take umbridge - then you may get off your dates, make plans and attend Gosford.
BBYC has 6 to 8 boats going and if I were a betting man I might throw a few thou on the title remaining in the same hands.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 10 October 2011 : 2:33:36 PM
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Well hello CC,
The Dumeresq has not been sighted on the harbour since last season with Stewart spending time with his kiddies who are learling to sail in Middle Harbour. Last week there was a sighted a Sea Gills nest with two hatched rodents aboard.
Yesterday saw six craft racing in an abreviated race at North Harbour so that the boys would not miss the rugby in NZ.
During the race the mighty Clewless was sighted twice belting along with full gear in twenty plus knots.
Rod and myself will be upgrading a lot of fittings and systems in the Hagar in the lead-up to the Nationals. There are most likely still some of the original fittings in the mast, one which has a jamed internal halliard block. But hay, the rope still goes up and down, dontweknow?
And will you be sailing or even puting in an appearence up at Gosford sewer?
Chris. |
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 05:23:29 AM
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Adue CC, I shall endeavour to get to GSC hopefully for a full day - if so I will sail with one of the back markers - all depends on Sarah being in care and what the boatshed work load is like.
Twould seem to me Copey that just as the second hand boat market (yet another hint that I have a E26 for sale) seems flat so too does the web site! hellllloooo anyone out there?
the other CC. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 09:29:45 AM
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Hi there Col,
The boat market does appear to be collapsing. I could have purchased a good looking E30, Mark 1 for $20K a few months back, they were asking $30K. However the old problem of mooring minders filling our waterways on Sydney Harbour continues to vex us racing types. There are a lot of old skiff sailors like myself who would love to race his own yacht but cannot get a mooring within coo-wee of our Club. Most of the boats around the harbour rarely get off their moorings and the private operators around our way want ten times the cost of a Maritime mooring.
And so I'm set to stay aboard the Hagar for some time. It is a pity because when I raced my own boat in skiffs the Club always seemed to grow in numbers and prospered. Could be that they just hated me enough to want to beat me out on the water?
I'm looking at placing my son's name down on the waiting list in North Harbour as he will get a lot more years of pleasure than myself.
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Taunto
Main Sheet Hand
Australia
103 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 6:28:41 PM
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Colin or Chris,
i am endeavouring to reprop my old girl with a three blade unit and i am tring to gather as much information as i can for the man who works out the sums , would either of you gentlemen know the weight of an E28, as i have not craned her yet to know.
I cant seem to find any reference to weight in the blue book , the displacement is listed as 3,175 kg so i think that she should weigh more than that.
Many thanks if you can help. cheers taunto.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 7:46:57 PM
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Col may know, while do not know how much an E28 could weigh. I thought that they would be much less than an E30, our Mark 1 was 3.8 tones when we had her slipped a few months ago but we did not have all the sails and racing gear aboard.
The Blue Book states that the E28 has a displacement of 3,175kg with a C.I. Ballast of 1,315kg.
The is an old 18 footer skiff champion, I think his name is Holmes, who has a specialised propeller and sharft service company in Sydney and his has a big stock of old propellers and knows which prop goes with which engine for each class of boat.
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 8:22:58 PM
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| Chris, Ithink the prop man you mention is Dave Porter and operates ......at Parramatta EH |
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 11 October 2011 : 9:07:02 PM
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| Col,im still here if anyone was wondering ,i am maintaining my usual position at the tail end of the races ,both sailing and human,we may not enter the nats unless we can get our act together which seems unlikely....D I is blowing us and everyone else away but im getting a bit tired of hearing about it(g/day Pressy)i have to go now cause i'm running out of tissues.....EH |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 October 2011 : 10:56:20 AM
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There there Ecca,
I'm sure that just getting up in the morning must be a big effort and a reward. Thanks for the advice on Dave Porter, just could not be bothered last night to look up the name in the previous postings.
Don't worry about wining just get out on the water and keep everyone honest. Hoping that not all the wind is passing between your legs.
Chris. |
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Taunto
Main Sheet Hand
Australia
103 Posts |
Posted - 14 October 2011 : 5:32:36 PM
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Thanks gentlemen for your help , i have approched two company's with the same spec's and they have come back with two different sized prop suggestions .
I have a little more time before i go on the slip so i spose it's more research on this mystical subject. Cheers taunto. |
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 12 November 2011 : 04:47:37 AM
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Scuttlebutt down this end of the world has a certain person turning up at the titles with a bunch of other certain people (no certain sailmaker though) on a boat that may have been thrashed into 2nd place last year!!!!!
They have been advised of the committee's decision to weigh the first 3 boats - hmmm that went down well! not. Forgot to advise that a cover note is not acceptable - the assoc wants to see a full copy of a paid policy, and that assoc membership is up to date.
Not sure where the certain boat will be hauled out or whom or what work is to be done to it - a fair bit may depend on other certain people who may or may not have certain feeling toward said persons!
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 14 November 2011 : 2:29:33 PM
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And while we are hurling javlins, lets have a full spot safty check of all the craft, especially the fast ones! For working motors, anchors and chains etc, etc.
While it is good to see more competition in all the divisions, lets try and keep it superfically fair and honest. At the last few nationals there have been some craft actually having to be towed to the start, dontweknow?
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Barubi
Main Sheet Hand
92 Posts |
Posted - 17 November 2011 : 1:44:26 PM
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As advised in the NoR, I assume the non-Gosford boats will have used a working motor to get past Little Box Head.
I've got serious questions about getting into Brisbane Water. It's been over 30 years since Barubi ventured into Gosford and we ran aground on the way out then.
When are other Endeavours going and what timing do the regulars advise to get through the channel? |
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 17 November 2011 : 8:59:55 PM
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| HiBarubi,Firstly try to pick slack water or a run in tide, watch the channel markers carefully at Wagsstaff/Pretty Beach and half tide rocks,the next hurdle will be the rip bridge ,plenty of mast height,but when the tide is running strongly it is a formidable opponent,hense the incoming tide suggestions,any sandbanks are usually obvious,finally when you are approaching the entrance to Brisbane Water proper the last two starboard channell markers are quite a long way apart so keep heading well out into the bay untill youre sure...if you turn at the second last mark you will have an appointment with the coastal patrol,,,,,this probably sounds difficult but its not really,lots of people do it ,ask the mayor of North Harbour,,,EH |
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 15 December 2011 : 5:55:13 PM
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We here at EMS have secured a scale to weigh boats on our crane! we might ask the assoc for a few schekles so they have use of it. Our aim (and as assoc tech officer)is to weigh all E26s we pull out especially those going to Gosford - to give them a certificate of measure - and tell them if they are under weight to add glassed in ballast - so no boat from BBYC can be viewed as improper! now there is sure to be some who won't like or abide by this but we figure if the organising committee is aware of those boats and a protest is tendered aka the blue book - the outcome will be a no brainer!!
Are we going off on the wrong tangent or do most of you feel this is ok? |
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 15 December 2011 : 5:57:36 PM
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| No we can not weigh 'Hagar" as there is no crane in the world big enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) |
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 15 December 2011 : 8:43:36 PM
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| Chris, You could hire a helicopter,, EH |
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 16 December 2011 : 1:42:42 PM
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Col, as you may probably know, we went through the weighing exercise in the E24 fleet here some years ago. May I respectfully suggest BEFORE you weigh any yacht, that some authority specify what may be on/off said yacht at the time of weighing, for obvious reasons. Unless this is standardised, any protest won't get past the paper it's scribbled on.
Season's greetings to all, Rob. |
Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 19 December 2011 : 5:52:26 PM
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Well we have just about decided that, weather permitting we will be sailing the Hagar up to Pittwater on Friday the 6th to race in the interclass regatta and then return either that night or early the next morning to race at North Harbour on Sunday.
The boys will be delivering the Hagar back up to Pittwater and then on up the sewer pipe to Gosford late the next week with most of them on annual holidays. I will drive up for the first race on Friday morning.
Looking forward to seeing youall there.
Chris.
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 20 December 2011 : 2:14:39 PM
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Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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4Seasons
Helmsman
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Posted - 20 December 2011 : 6:40:03 PM
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| Rob , its nice to see people accepting thier place in the world,im sure they'll feel at home in "the pipe" it's probably more comfy than a "barge arse trawler".....EH |
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