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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
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 Posted - 07 October 2005 : 5:46:15 PM
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Chris, re the S/S plate with the turning pullies attached, yes I have replaced mine, remove the turning plate and cut out the old Alloy rail. Under you will find two groove in the fibreglas. I had a section manufactured to suit the groove and also the curvature in the toe rail. My guy produced a square section with the curved cut in the bottom section. It slotted on and is held down with 3 x 100x 10g S/S Coach Screws. I got mine for a case of beer. The expensive part was the Coach Screws. We also used the old S/S section for the pullies.
Will send photos later direct or via Sasha.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 09 October 2005 : 08:56:01 AM
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Yesterday Rod & I were going out for a sail on the Hagar as well as to watch the Manly 16 foot skiffs. It was a strengthening westerly. Rod & Andy own & sail their own 16s' but Rod has war injuries & cannot get wet. Andy was first onto the water and got to the other side our small bay before a westerly squall berried them. They had their big rig up & following serveral attempts to continue they pulled down their main & we towed them home. In the meantime Rods' 16 got out in small gear & started with the rest of the fleet. It was blowing about 12 to 25 knots. All was OK until the breeze picked up and we clocked up to 34 knots in North Harbour. Most 16s went down & eventually we towed home Rods' 16.
We did not get much work done on the Hagar IV but I had a good look at the SS after turning block bases which cover the gunnels. They are bolted on with three bolts as well screws & rivets. The underlying alloy tubing is heavily corroded & mainly where the coach bolts are attached. They are screwed vertically and the alloy tubing has expanded. Will attempt to remove the plating which is in good condition, only the alloy tubing is history.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 14 October 2005 : 7:06:22 PM
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This weekend will be very busy with the Hagar IV copping some work tomorrow. We have a very long schudule of jobs with Rod having revised & re-issued the Hagar maintenance & work list program. Last night I actually wrote it all up, had it finished & during the spell check the ruddy Windows program threw a spasm, loosing the lot when I attempted to post it.
Then on Sunday the boys will be racing at North Harbour for our second race of the season.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2005 : 5:44:06 PM
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This past weekend saw us become preoccupied with Club matters on Saturday & did not get out to the yacht till late in the afternoon. We did manage to add some jobs, not being able to get the toilet pump working. There is still a long list of jobs.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 17 October 2005 : 7:51:37 PM
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| Chris, The list rarely gets shorter... but the jobs on it do get smaller....trust me!! |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 21 October 2005 : 6:52:03 PM
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This weekend is at this stage uncertain. Rod rang today & informed me that the HagarIV is booked in to the work berth at Davis Marina on Saturday morning. However I may be predisposed with the family. Rod plans to have the Sailmaker down to measure up the two 16s' for new headsails and, while he is there, have him walk over to the Marina & measure up the Hagar IV for a new mainsail.
Then there is the toilet to unblock & the main inlet valve to be worked on to free it up as it is stuck open. These are the main tasks and if time permits there is the kite pole to shorten, vents in the locker-door, kite pole seating block on the deck etc.....
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 22 October 2005 : 8:54:38 PM
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Well today I went down early & bought the Hagar IV into the work berth & moored her and got to work. Filled the water tanks to overflowing. Cleaned & scrubbed the toilet outlet cock valve system & sprayed with WD40, it was heavily corroded & the cock will not turn. Also did a few other small jobs before leaving after midday. Rod took over & with a small electric pump emptied the water tanks, refilled & repeated the process three times as well as scrubbing out the tanks. We now have clean water! He likewise did some other jobs. At around 6.00m I returned & went out onto the boat with Rod & the Sailmaker. He measured her up for a new main and recommended a high grade dacron cloth. The current new main on the boat is poorly shaped & becomes distorted when the breeze kicks in. He said it can be fixed but has limited life & the cloth is of poor quality & is too soft. After finishing out on the Hagar we returned to the Club & talked about sail profile & shape etc. The new main will be of a larger overall size, but not to the extent of the Zero Balance. It will be fully batterned, be made of a heavy dacron cloth and will have a slightly longer foot & bigger roach.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 23 October 2005 : 06:23:06 AM
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Chris,
In March I got a new main for "Caroline" - 7.5oz Hood dacron cloth, tapered full length battens, loose foot, more roach, had a few more inches available so went longer on the foot (Caroline's boom measures around 3.14m, not sure how this stacks up against Hagar or Zero Balance). Made a big difference. Hope you guys find the same. |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 2:48:52 PM
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Leigh, What you did with your new mainsail sounds like what we are doing. The main difference is that unlike most of the other "lemming" Endeavour sailors, we will be having our sails made by the young chap who made the winning set of sails for the boys last E26, Hagar Too. He is very competitive on price as well as being damed good. He currently makes sails for the top local 16 foot skiff, even though the pied pipper of the 16s' throws new new sails at him for zip. He tries them & then sells them!
And the beauty of dacron is they can be re-shaped & do not delaminate after a few years.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 3:48:38 PM
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Our list for jobs when we go up on the slips next year is growing. It will now most likely include:
1.A new toilet, bad luck for the ladies as shes' a not working at this time.
2.Looking at all the underwater inlet & outlets closely for corrosion & are they working?
3.The Rudder Skirts are to be made & put on.
4.The Stainless steel aft gunnel plates will most likely be replaced at that time also.
5.The rubber propeller shart cover will also be upgraded with the brass bush also being correctly repacked with whatever the greasey rope is called.
And so the list goes on...
Don't we love it!!!
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Sasha
Helmsman
838 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 4:31:04 PM
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My advice is to start saving a little extra now and replace the toilet with a Lavac. Then you will not have to think about it for the next ten years and it will work. They are also lighter for the racing minded and errr....of a larger diameter then standard marine heads...for those of us who are also of a larger diameter.
They cost about a third more then the generally available type...but they are well worth it.
Let me know if you need some custom stainless work like those plates manufactured and shipped up.
Sasha
P.S On the baby front. Still not happened, but all is well and healthy. Apparently 2% of babies do not conform to the measurement specs for determining precise dates, and ours is one of them. Margaret has decided to tempt fate somewhat by declaring she wants to do an overnight cruise before it is too late (some would say it already is!). So we are borrowing "By Jingies" for a cruise group sail down to Geelong for the weekend. I have prepared my little emergency kit, which includes taking along a third crew member in case I need to attend to Margaret instead of the boat and a pair of freshly sterilised office bulldog clips....because it is important to plan ahead.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 5:06:36 PM
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Gee Chris, don't be a whosss, Jobs 1 & 4 could be done on the Marina or mooring, Give the girls a thrill with a Electric loo. You can install it on water because the outlet hose is higher than the water line.
The problem that I would hope could solve, my original loo was 125 mm high (made in England) so a replacement was not available.
Now I replace it with a TCM for about $250. The problem was it was so much higher (275mm) and I just did not think at the time untill somebody used it. your feet swung in frest air. So now on "Splinter" you step up to sit on the Thrown. In rough seas we have two handles so you hang on. Nothing that a small box in front of the thunder box cannot fix.
Make it comfortable for your crew.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 24 October 2005 : 5:22:55 PM
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| Chris - we took the head out of our boat and "hey presto" - no woman has set foot on it since! This is excellent for those of us who like to indulge in beer drinking and loud, uncouth talk whilst on the water. Think hard about the appeal of a simple bucket... |
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 5:36:26 PM
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I'm waiting for the response of this, Love it.
cheers |
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 6:21:37 PM
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Sounds like some of teh E30's had a very low marine toilet fitted, because the original fibreglass moundling on "Caroline" also left the feet dangling after a new modern standard job was fitted. The solution is simple - a "step" type arrangement that is glassed in on the lip of the original moudling. Picture attached!!
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Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 October 2005 : 7:21:41 PM
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David,
Your suggestion has a lot appeal as well as sence, however with four spouces, one with two daughters & myself with three it is not an option because we do wish to go cruising & may not be able to do so unless we make our women comfortable. When choosing the E30 it had to have a desiel inboard motor as well as a toilet.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 25 October 2005 : 12:04:47 PM
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| Chris, With that number of potential's for marine dunny disaster on board from time to time, a thorough training regime followed up with regular refresher training is suggested! I put a sign up with instructions plus a really effective highlighted bit at the end that said "If your have followed the above, well done, if not the skipper is happy to hand you a kit of tools and a repair kit". The bit on the end seemed to ensure most people reread the instructions if they weren't too sure how it worked. |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 12:42:02 PM
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The toilet aboard Jubilation (a Farr38) was one of those Italian jobs that had the three stage selector, where as you moved the handle you would get a red circle, yellow circle or green circle for the stages.
The boat was in survey and used for sail training, so there were very clear instructions on how to use the head.
For some reason, it was on the trip that Margaret and I were on board that a very large gentleman needed to use the facilities and was the first on board to have red-green colour blindness.
As the people that slept in the V-berth, we can tell you that smells on boats do not readily go away.
Sasha
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 25 October 2005 : 4:35:11 PM
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Good,
Now the stories have de-generated enough for me to tell you the, Tale of Clarky!
Now Clarky was a simple lad who sailed aboard a fourteen. His life was good & simple; he was strong, young & keen.
He was a lawn mower man by trade, he hailed from Sydney Town, & when the working day was done he headed for North Harbour down.
And when all his lawns were done, he downed a beer or forty three and went home to his mother for a nice big cup of tea.
Now Clarky loved his 14 and raced it all about, and when the Americas' Cub came by to Freeo Town he was out there in a tout.
He sailed real well in the 14 Nationals there & became a celebrity when invited with all the toffs aboard the Treherns new yacht at sea.
They motored out onto the course to watch the twelve metres race out there.
But all the time our Clarky lad was developing a problem which we know can gives you airs, that constipation is! and found that all the way out to sea, he was in deep despair!
So he found the head & there relieved all 14 frolickings, but when the time came to pump it out, the bloody pump was seized! He pumped & pumped & pumped some more until the darn thing it went "BANG" & he sat there gob smacked as ever as it all shot out!
He came on deck a sorry sight, covered from head to toe & was quickly shoved in the Sound.
While poor Hughy T. was left to clean up the mess out there near Coburn Sound.
A true story from Fremantle during the Americas Cup by Chris.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 25 October 2005 : 10:14:42 PM
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| Hmmm. My first mate & I once spent a few gorgeous weeks bareboating in the Carribbean with four other couples, all good friends. We rented a Moorings Oceanis 50 from Martinique that resembled the USS Nimitz apart from the lack of elevators. It weighed 28 tonnes, had 5 double cabins and each had its own Head. Count 'em. Needles to say the inevitable happened and after several days of wining and dining aboard our head was blocked solid. Luckily I speak French, so managed to work out the drawings and unblocking instructions. But, nothing worked. Facing the dreaded disassembly option, the only solution I had left was to attack it from the outside. So, here I be, under the boat upside down with a big rubber plunger stuck on the outlet and doing squats wearing a Diving BCD to hold my feet up against the hull. After a few mighty pumps I got what might in some circles be described as a successful outcome. It felt like a faceful to me... |
Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy. |
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