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Sasha
Helmsman

838 Posts

Posted - 25 October 2005 :  10:51:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A story which begs the question of "Do you always travell to foreign countries with a large rubber plunger...or is it just for special pleasure trips?"

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The more I know about horses, the more I love sailboats.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand

124 Posts

Posted - 25 October 2005 :  10:52:38 PM  Show Profile  Click to see david_eastwood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Of course I do - doesn't everyone?

Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 26 October 2005 :  10:34:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A very nice story David, but you need more rhyme.
And were you welcome back aboard?
Chris.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand

124 Posts

Posted - 26 October 2005 :  3:27:32 PM  Show Profile  Click to see david_eastwood's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
...er, after a while yes. First, I was made to tread water behind the boat (anchored, thankfully) and consume two very large cocktails involving white rum, grappa, large amounts of fruit and a hibiscus flower.

The plunger bacame a celebrity and was used to signal to passing boatloads of naked, middle aged Germans (no, I don't know why they do that either) for the next couple of weeks.

Got neither rhythm nor rhyme, sadly. No part of me is black, my kids are both blonde.

Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy.
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Barubi
Main Sheet Hand

92 Posts

Posted - 26 October 2005 :  5:16:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It may not be a true story, but a submariner told me of a U-boat that sank because the captain hadn’t learnt how to operate the new head that had been fitted between patrols. Whilst making the submerged transit through the Bay of Biscay to his patrol area he got the valve sequence wrong, the boat took on enough water to allow seawater to get into the battery tank, chlorine gas evolved, they had to surface to clear the air (in the days before snort), an aircraft spotted them and they were sunk.
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Splinter
Helmsman

Australia
500 Posts

Posted - 26 October 2005 :  7:48:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Splinter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gee you know, when you really have to go you just have to go but to stuff up the valves - WELL !!
Thanks God for 12 volt electric loo with a crew over 40 (no material solids)
and just press the button.
My "Splinterettes'" love it.
I'm waiting for the next story, guys this is great, What Loo did Nelson have ? Electric or pump out ? or did thay just shoot it out !
cheers,

"Splinter"
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 26 October 2005 :  8:16:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Kev,
Rod is very serious about fixing our loo & has made it a top priority. His young son has been taught by his mother to only piss in a bowl! Mine was doing it out the window & anywhere else at his age. I will talk with Rod about electrifying our loo. It could be verrrrry stimulating, dont' you know.
With reguards to to Nelson, well they had different types depending upon your rank. If you go to the forum which I wrote under TRIVIA, there is a link in a later reply which has photos of the "heads" aboard the HMS Victory.
Most relieving!
Chris
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 30 October 2005 :  07:06:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On Saturday afternoon Rod & I went down to the Hagar IV & bought her into the marina work birth and got to work on her. I replaced the port side forward white plastic air vent but when I went to hole saw air vent holes in the port locker door & to fix three small vents we found that the power cord was too short. We were again looking at the toilet & found that the damned thing is now pumping water in & out quite well. It seems that the cock on the hull skin, which is located under the sink on the port side had seized shut. Rod had worked on it last week with WD40 & opened it, the the water had taken some time to work its way into the pipe & toilet. We will keep looking at her as well as buying a handle for the sea cock. Hopefully this will save us about $300.00.
Rod had purchased two new Cat regulation size buckets & spliced on rope lanyards.
We then removed the kicker block which is located on the foredeck in front of the baby stay fitting. We made up a whipped cord length which we attached to the back of the baby stay base fitting. This was about twenty inches long & fixed the block to the other end. This will mean that we will be end for end jibing the kite pole inside between the mast & baby stay, preventing the foul-ups which we had at the regatta with the jib when jibing. We also turned the baby stay block system to face forwards which will make it much easier to work.
After this we had visitors & work ceased as we had ship board coffee.
We returned the Hagar to her mooring about 5.00pm. I also took home the Kite Pole to be shortened by about 20 inches.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 04 November 2005 :  5:56:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well last weeks sailing calender was all cocked up with the Hagar having a no sail weekend. The twilighters do not start tonight as reported, but next Friday. We will be definatly sailing this Sunday at North Harbour.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 05 November 2005 :  7:51:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This morning I finished puting together the kite pole after cutting it down to 3.6 mitres in length. We originally had it at 4.0 mitres but found it too unweildly up the bow as well as the kite not sitting well. It did not however seem to affect our downwind speed at the regatta though. Anyway its' done & we will test it out tomorrow when we sail our third race at North Harbour SC.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 06 November 2005 :  5:34:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Todays race was really good and although we did not get the result we woulld have liked, being beaten by a minute & a half on the line, we had a good hard race. There were only three of us on board and it was hard work. The shortened kite pole was the correct length and it performed well with our big kite standing up well. There were a number of failures though with more work required on the Hagar IV, including:
1. Replacing the Clutches for the Main, Jib & kite halliards which continue to slip in light conditions even after continuous attention.
2. We need a Jockey Pole to stop the kite brace rubbing against the stauchions.
3. There has to be about five attachments made at the mast base for the halliards which are not being used to be fixed to.
4. And there are more.

In addition we have a list of jobs as well as outlays to be made to bring her up to Cat 3, which is where we wish to be to race offshore this year.
Chris.
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Splinter
Helmsman

Australia
500 Posts

Posted - 07 November 2005 :  05:56:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Splinter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chris, suggestion re a fixing point at the base of the mast for your halyards. Drill a hole in the mast base and put a Long Dee shackle (a large one) This then doubles up as a strong point for harness. You will need that for you Cat 3.
cheers.

"Splinter"
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 07 November 2005 :  09:03:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good moring Kevin,
That what Pete said to us reguardig the halliard fittings & we will do it week before next weeks two races.
I told Rod what you said about pulling the kite down between the main & the boom. He said it was called "enveloping" or "posting" and it is a technique used in bigger yachts and stops the kite getting entangled and cut up by deck fittings.
Well we had an unannounced demonstration by Pete who did a couple of times for us on the weekend. It worked well.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  5:03:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday, I'm again off to the secondhand chandlery at Mona Vale. They had a pair of end fittings for a Jocky, or Whisker Pole when I last visited. Will also be looking for a pair of large sliders for the outer tracks for the extra brace & sheets.
Rod is putting together a long list of jobs to get us to Cat 3. However this will occur after we square up on the financials.
If anyone sees a good second hand Zodiac or Bombard 3.4 metre inflatable, please drop us a line. We would like as a tender to the Hagar.
Have also noted that Whitworths are running a special on Navman GPS Chartplotters, however they are not yet stocking the latest version, the 5600.
Chris.
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Sasha
Helmsman

838 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  5:19:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You do know that jockey pole and whisker pole heads are very different?
Jockey pole heads (the outer end where the business of things happens) has a sheave in it to allow the brace to run freely.

[img]http://www.almasts.com.au/jockeypoleends.jpg[/img]

Whisker pole ends are pretty much like spinnaker ends.

You probably already knew that.

Sasha...Master Of The Obvious

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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  7:09:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All right Sasha,
I'm a dumb bum, but which one is used for what? I assumed I was off to buy an end with a turning block in it which leavers the brace away from the staunchions. A Jockey Pole.
Am I correct or, give us the next four page lecture.
Anyway, I dont' give a rats, I'll buy whatever they have and take back whatever we dont' use to the second hand store.

And by the way,...My wifey just returned from a family Funeral in Tahiti. No she did not get in line to view & kiss the Body of "Cousin", like the locals did.

However, amoung the gifts she bought back were two electified mozzie swotters. They work really well, sneak up on the offending insect, push the button & ZAPP!!! Just think!!??
could patent them & upgrade for Mouslims.

Sorry about that.

Chris.
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Sasha
Helmsman

838 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  7:30:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll settle for a mozzie killing version. I am getting eaten alive by the bugger this week.

Both the ends pictured are the business end of jockey poles. One is for larger yachts and has the topping lift and kicker line holders and the other is a smaller version that just sits there ina self tensioned kind of way.

The other end is more or less the standard whisker pole type conection that you pull the cord to shoot.

There...not even one page.

Glad your wife is back safe and sound.

Margaret the Incredibly Spherical says "greetings"


Sasha

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Splinter
Helmsman

Australia
500 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  8:32:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Splinter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gee guys, I want the mossie zapper for down at Conjola,
The whisker pole is simple, one end is similar to the spinnaker pole end at the mast. However it is on the side of the mast level with the top safety lines.
The other end is a beak which fits over the Brace and holds it out & off the staunchens. My crew use it different ways sometimes up and sometimes down, I don't really thing it matters.
BUT I think it is great bit of gear on any shy run, much more control and not taking out the fore stay.

"Splinter"
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Go Flow
Helmsman

Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2005 :  9:39:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If anyone wants a jockey pole they can have mine for free. Its a bit rough and has two standard fairly lightweight pole fittings at each end in reasonable condition. It also has a strop attached to one end.
Adrian
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Rod1950
Main Sheet Hand

39 Posts

Posted - 09 November 2005 :  10:37:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Adrian, I am interested in the pole, can you come back with your phone number, or you can give me a call on 0419416109.

Regards

Rod
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