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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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 Posted - 20 May 2006 : 7:22:40 PM
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Second try! This morning I slept in and did not get down to the Hagar until about 10.00am. Got a few little jobs done and have finished measuring up the front floor board as well as stenciling out the shape of the tiller onto a new piece of WA Jarrah. A nice red piece, it is half cut out and needs only the plan shape to be cut into it and then the grinding & sanding to finish it off.
We have had a bit of rain and there was no water in the sump to speak of which is very satisfying.
The Hagar is looking good for the Lake Macquarie trip & regatta, only hope the weather is kind to us and we get up overnight on the Friday & hopefully arrive in time for the first race.
No new sails yet however.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2006 : 11:38:40 PM
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I have just about finished the sanding on the new Jarrah tiller. Gave it a single coat of Everdure and it has darkened in colour considerably. However it does look good & with a good wet & dry tomorrow it will be ready for a second coat.
Should I use the Everdure again or just varnish it?
Rod went off at lunch time with his sons birthday party overnight cruise. The weather looked foul.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 30 May 2006 : 12:45:42 AM
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| "Caroline" had a nice tiller with alternate laminates of blackwood and tas oak - I just kept it nice and shiny with a rub down and 5 or 6 coats of marine varnish every now and then (plus kept a slip on cover over it when not using the boat). Have to put up with a cold stainless wheel these days - doesn't quite feel the same in the hand! |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2006 : 12:05:37 PM
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Last night after applying the third coat of two pot Epicraft Everdue to the new tiller there was a slight disaster. I had hung the tiller by fishing line through a small hole in the back. After two coats cut back with fine wet & dry the tiller was gleaming with its third coat & I left it there to dry. Unfortunately someone opened the garage door which caused the line to snap & down it came. It has now dried with garage carpet fluff all over it. So, its back to the wet & dry today & a fourth coat.
Rodney has conceded that the toilet is RS following his replacement of some parts & we will now replace the whole thing. The seals are not working & it leaks effluent when pumping. It is always better to do a full job & not cut corners.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 01 June 2006 : 6:30:45 PM
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Chris,
You are right - particularly about boat dunnies! I have had a great run with Jabsco ones - full new ones are not too hard on the pocket. The only time I have had one fail has been when someone has done the wrong thing and done a lot of filling with solids, but no interim pumping during the process! A spare parts kit is over 1/3 the price of a full new toilet, so as you suggest, if it is getting old and worn out it is just better to get a new one.
Have you tried thin tie wire for hanging stuff up while painting/varnishing? Forms a nice rigid loop that you can bend off the surfaces. |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 01 June 2006 : 6:58:39 PM
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Also Chris re replacing your "loo". Depending on the age of the old loo, check the height from the base to the seat height.
Splinter had an English loo and was only 5" (125 mm)high. I wanted to replace it with an electric (345 H)- just push the button and even the girls cannot stuff it up.
The problem is that the bulkhead in the loo area is very restricted and I couldn't reduce the height of the support base without serious cut & shunt fibre glass work.
I installed the TMC, wanted the Jabsco but couldn't get one at the time. I also had to make up a step. The best part is the 2 handle you need when you are out in a sea otherwise one may fall off.
If you find a better way of setting it up let me know.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2006 : 07:01:27 AM
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Yes Leigh I know what you are suggesting about the wire for hanging things. Could not find any wire. Used the fishing line again but in the right position and the new tiller is now a gleaming wonder after re-sanding with wet & dry. Will take it down & fit to the metal arms with bolts this Saturday afternoon when Rod & I will be working on the Hagar.
Whitworths have an electric dunny on special and we will look at it over the weekend. We are sick & tired on the leaking effluent. I think the Rod has lost his sence of smell with the years of smoking.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2006 : 12:08:22 PM
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"Splinter" is right about the dunny height - I think all the E30's may have had the fibreglass mount up high due to some "not now made" type of dunny. We left the original fibreglass work in place (was a bit concerned it may in some way add structural strength) and fitted a step as well as a new Jabsco unit to dispose of the "brown trout".
You can also see the locker I fibreglassed in and the shower taps and the like.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2006 : 1:52:12 PM
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After consulting with Rod we have decided to go with a manual throne & will visit Whitworths tomorrow but will not do the installation until she goes up on the slips as there is not enough time with the Lake Mac. regatta coming up.
And speaking of which, can someone provide the goos long range boating weather forecast website. I have seen it but did not save the site on my computer.
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 02 June 2006 : 3:05:32 PM
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| Leigh, the step can be very important....I was motor sailing off the NW coast a few years ago into the lumpy stuff when nature called. The heads were of similar design (the step anyway), we ploughed through a particularly nasty bit (obviously I wasn't driving) and one of those trout made an escape out of the contrivance and settled for a second or two on the step. I let go of one bulkhead, retrieved said beast and redeposited same. Had there not been a step, I suspect I would have had a chase of sorts on my hands, I hadn't bothered with closing the door in case I was needed in a hurry, it could have gone anywhere!! There, that should brighten up everyone's Friday!!! Regards Rob S. |
Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2006 : 8:57:29 PM
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RRRight!, Well Robert, as we have managed to lower the tone of the topic somewhat, let me enlarge the description of our current problem. Liquid waste! There is a leak in the system and we have found that a percentage of the normally solid effluent is in fact a bit runny! In fact it can be very runny!! If you get my drift, and, in a system like ours when one is pumping away enthusiastically and finds that this is an unpleasant and spreading stain in the head area,...well we are not happy jan. And if it by chance goes down and into the bilge then the boat can take upon itself a very sweet odour.
And so its' back to the old saying fix right the first time.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 05 June 2006 : 11:53:08 AM
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On Saturday Rod & I met at Whitworths and looked at the WC's for the Hagar. After checking the weights, it was hands down for the hand pump with the electrics being far too heavy. In addition the Jacco model was by far the better option of the two on offer, due to the smoothness of the bump action. The other one Rod had installed to the old Loo & it did not match up perfectly. The complete Jacco model is about two inches higher than the old loo and should be OK. We will purchase & install when Hagar goes up for slipping.
We then went down to the boat & did a few small jobs for next week.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 08 June 2006 : 01:33:56 AM
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Good choice with the Jabsco - I carry a spare seal kit due to the length of cruises we do.
Have only had to use a kit once - let me just say that a blockage on the outgoing side of the seacock can only be cleared from underwater. Pumping away will not clear the blockage, just cost you a kit as well!
Let me also say that a partner that can do an admirable job swimming under the boat with a coat hook is well worth having, even if you do have to prepare a shower for her shortly after reboarding the boat. |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 June 2006 : 06:51:52 AM
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Leigh, you are a lucky man, neither Rod or I could get our SWMBOds' to come cruising and would not even contemplate asking them to go over the the side and clearing a clogged loo pipe! She must be some woman.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 June 2006 : 9:08:29 PM
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Hay, John Mac. How is the Santana going? Sorry to hear about your forstay rig problem and missing out on this weekends sailing. I'm looking forward to looking her over and you are more than welcome to come out with us if there is space, which there should be. Only hope that we can get up there for Saturday morning. We will be shoving off tomorrow afternoon.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2006 : 10:05:41 AM
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Well the Hagar IV is back on her mooring, having been safely return delivered from Lake Macquarie on Thursday by Rod & Andy. So it is back to the normal maintenence & cruising. This morning I will be going down to take out the Log which they forgot to remove otherwise it will quickly become slime & growth affected. There is also a reported problem with the main hand bilge pump which I'll take apart and checkout. The rubber diaphram may be gone. The boat is reported to be very damp from all the rainfall and the trip away si all the bedding will come up onto the deck if it is not raining this morning.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2006 : 11:06:00 AM
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Yesterday afternoon I finally got down to the Hagar and found that she had mainly dried out on her own, the bedding was still damp and so it came up onto the deck into he sun where it quickly dried out. Took out the log and replaced the seal log. Turned on the motor which started without any problems. Both batteries were fully charged up. However we did find on the trip up to Toronto that the batteries flattened quickly at night with the nav lights and instruments draining them quickly. We have two batteries and when the engine is not running and charging we switch to the house battery keeping the engine battery fully charged to start her up. We suspect that the house battery is getting old and are wondering what is the best replacement, considering that it must be a sealed gel unit for Cat 3.
When I opened the bilges there was quite a bit of water so I pumped it out, the bilge pump worked fine, and then it was hand sponged it was found that there was a steady leak coming from the stern gland. This was quickly stopped with the grease gun with a few pumps into the grease nipple.
All completed I took off the three racing headsails for drying out ashore,
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2006 : 8:47:54 PM
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Chris, on the battery side, if the boys had troubles with just nav lights & instruents etc, you certainly need new batterys. I chose the Exide AGM battries. I have never experienced any drainage of my house battries on overnight runs and cruising. I have one Start Battery & 2 House Batteries. Expensive Yes, but working it is great, never short of power.
Just think !
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 22 June 2006 : 2:58:14 PM
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Well this morning Rod rang and we have the Hagar booked in for the weekend of the 14th to 16th of July for slipping in Middle Harbour.
Rod is preparing a nice long list of jobs for when she is up. We hope this time to have her positioned to rest on a different spot than the last slipping so that the old spot can be cleaned and if necessary have any rust ground off, primed and sealed up. The boat will have two full coats of antifoul with the rudder & leading edges and the water line having three. I will be cutting out the two alloy rudder skirts and fit them while she is out of the water as well as prime & antifoul them as well. Andy is in charge of the engine which will have a full service with new filters, oil & hoses where necessary. The stern gland will be repacked and the propeller shart rubber seal may also be replaced with the correct type of pipe this time around. We also hope to have the two aft SS turning block bases replaced and the gunnel section benieth which is corroding will also be replaced.
There will be some additional cosmetic work conducted upon the outer sides of the hull where the paint has worn off. This will entail a scrub down along with the below water line areas.
Rod also wishes to replace the toilet which has been giving us some grief, with a new Jabcso.
And there will be a lot more.
Anyone in the area of Middle Harbour are welcome to come down for a perve and to run interference, however you may end up with a brush in you hands.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 June 2006 : 10:11:49 PM
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This afternoon I joined Rod aboard the Hagar & we removed the port side aft SS base plate holder for the jib & kite blocks. THe plate is fine, however the alloy tube beneath is heavily corroded and it would only come away with some heavy perswaision. In fact it almost fell apart in some sections.
The amount of corrosion and salt & alloy oxides was mixed with some form of filler which was also breaking down. It was an ugly mess. In the top of the raised skin of the hull was found to be a copper or bronze square section into which four SS bolts had been tapped screwed.
Rod will take the lot off the surviving alloy tube & the SS turning plate fitting and have two SS channel plate fittings made up to cover the raised hull skin. We will then re-bolt these back to the skin with liberal amounts of Duralac paste.
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A New E30
