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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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 Posted - 13 April 2007 : 12:55:21 PM
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The Hagar boys will be at it again this weekend with tomorrow seeing us check out the bottom of the boat and having her scrubbed.
There is also a problem with the prop. While in neutal the engine will go up to and above 3,000RPMs', but while in gear she in slow, sluggish, stalls for no reason and we cannot get no more than 1500RPMs.
We suspect that there may be fishing line or something wrapped around the shaft or just growth on the prop.
We may also be racing on Sunday.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 15 April 2007 : 10:02:04 AM
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Yesterday afternoon Rod & I went down to the Hagar and the diver had already cleaned her. We went for a quick motor run around North Harbour and found that we had a different boat. She started easily, held her revs and accellerated strongly with upwind speeds of 5.2 and up to 5.7 downwind.
When we got back to the Club and chatted with the diver he informed us that although the hull had no major growth, it was slimey as well as having about 20 blister spots on the iron keel, but the prop had one and a half inch barnacles growing upon it.
This it seems was our problem, barnacles, which inhibit the feathering prop from opening fully as well as making it uneven in rotation and was putting the engine out of balance.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 16 April 2007 : 6:48:40 PM
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Now today I said goodbye to Rod who is off to attack the Victorians for three weeks on Port Philip Bay, playing armies. While he is away I will be procuring a new Router to make nicely finished edges on the woodwork.
Any recommendations on my proposed purchase?
Tomorrow I also pick up the new light-weight No1 headsail which has been in the pipeline since before Easter. It's all nice and shiny with black crosses.
While Rods' away I'll be attacking the timberwork.
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 16 April 2007 : 9:00:58 PM
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There are only two real choices. Metabo...which is the best in all respects and will last so that you can hand it on to your grandchildren
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GMC, which are copies of really top quality tools and retain most of the precicion and good handedness of their origins....but lack the longevity and sturdiness of the metabo stuff.
They are howvere dirt cheap and can be treated as consumables in many cases.
Absolutely nothing else on the Australian market in powertools (with the exception of Bosch, AEG and other "almost metabos") are worth the effort of purchase let alone use.
Ozito and such are dreadfull and actually not worth the cheap price. De Walt at the other end of the spectrum is almost the same price of Metabo and is only about 1/10th the quality.
Black and Decker have become a joke of their former self.
If you want to spend real money, buy metabo or Bosch.
If you want it cheap and still worth using buy GMC. I use powertools every single day and make my living by them, there really is nothing else worth considering on the market (Makita used to be an exception, but their new higher prices have exceeded their quality. I would nowadays only consider buying a 5 year old or older Mak second hand, and at a suitably discounted price. The newer models just aren't as bulletproof as the old.)
Sasha
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 April 2007 : 06:58:23 AM
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Thanks for your recommendations Sasha. What about the size & brands of the attachment blades? I'm vaguely remember that there are two sizes for the diameter of these. Any ideas and what is the better brands?
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 17 April 2007 : 11:31:42 AM
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There are 1/4 and 1/2 inch routers as the standard sizes for non-specialist commercial units. The good news is that if you buy the more powerful 1/2 inch mandrel model....They nearly all have a swap-out lug for running 1/4inch tools included in the unit when you buy.
As to the best brands of bits...It partially depends on what you are trying to do, but any time you need to walk into a Carbotech store, you are going to come out with a very sore wallet.
My own preference in bits is that I buy the cheapest CARBIDE edged bits I can find as kits (cheaper that way) and if neccassary I can give thema spot of modification with an angle grinder so they do exactly the shape I want (My router bit for cutting the groove in my home made sheaves is such a modified mutant) I do not recommend such modifications for beginners, by the way.
Seriously, I have never found anywhere cheaper then Bunnings for sets of Crabide bits around major sale times. For specialist bits, it almost has to be Carbotech, they are in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane...and mail order all over the country.
I would avoid the HSS router bits (High Speed Steel) as hey do not cut as well as carbide, the machine works harder, sometimes tears out huge splinters or gouges and often leaves a scorched friction-burn finish on many resin-rich Australian timbers.
I still do not consider myself a woodworker of much skill...but at this moment in my workshop there are FIVE routers (it saves time on changing bits and lets you retain settings for multiple production of something). Two are 1/4 inch (one is a super small profile for getting into tight spaces and doing detail cuts) three are 1/2 inch capable, one of which is mounted in a router table (wonderful toy!).
Some fo the smaller 1/4 inch routers you can buy are actually dismountable form there router platforms. This can be good as it allows you to use the motor and mandrel section of the unit as a light-to-medium duty die-grinder...a very usefull tool indeed for boatwork! (though you end up buying a whole other range of tools to run in them!).
Oh yeah, many routers now feature adjustable speed control, but some don't. As a feature, it is utterly irrelevant, as the idea is to go as fast as possible so as to shave the timber instead of chopping it. The speed dial will always be set to the fastest speed, so you porbably do not need the option of turning it down. Thus such a feature or its absence should not inform your desicion to buy or not buy one model over another.
For me the jury is still out about easy-release mandrels that only need one spanner to change bits. I loved the feature unti it stopped working and began to slip on one of my GMC routers....now it takes five times longer to change a bit in that machine then it would if it was the old relaiable two-spanner change type. But on the other hand, my other routers which have the same feature are working fine after even more use....
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 April 2007 : 6:15:52 PM
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Went mad this afternoon and spent $320.00 on a 1/4 inch (6.4mm) Makita Router and a 20 piece set of tungstan bits at Bunnings. There was only one Bosh and all the other brands were cheapies and as I have a big set of Makita tools which have been wonderfully reliable I went with the tried and true. In hindsight I should have gone down to the big hardware specialists, Hardware & General and checked them out.
So the next few afternoons will see me destroying timber. Thanks for you input Sasha.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 19 April 2007 : 4:58:07 PM
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Tuesday saw me pick up the new big lightweight headsail. Its' almost two foot longer on the foot as well as being a bit longer on the luff and does not have as much leach hollow as the old number one. I am hoping that this new sail will enthuse the rest of the guys into buying a new main and a number four blade, number one kite and the list just goes on....
I'm presently having fun destroying pieces of teak, leaning how to use a router. Have finished two new chainplate covers and made a bit of a mess of the fist piece after forgetting to set the plunger, however the side which is damaged will be hidden behind behind the plate.
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Sasha
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Posted - 19 April 2007 : 6:29:55 PM
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Ummm...get hold of some scrap timber to practice setting up the router on? Maybe?
An Indonesian rainforest of teak is screaming quietly right now.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 April 2007 : 9:10:20 PM
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To blazes with the Indonesians Sasha, and I have just about making the teak bits for the Hagar.
Tomorrow afternoon, if I can get back from the dawn service in one piece there is work to do aboard the Hagar.
Firstly, check for leaks as we have had three good days of rain and she will need to be pumped out.
Secondly the final fitting must be conducted for the teak companionway protection strip as well as the two chain plate covers.
Thirdly, check the spots where we belive we sealed leak points. Also stikaflex any new leak points.
While we have come a long way in the renervation of the Hagar there will be further work to be completed. This will include:-
1. The four cabin windows are badly crazed and misty as well as leaking and should be replaced.
2. The main deck mounted wind direction instrument which is faulty needs replacing.
3. There is at least one hull body outlet tap, down aft which has seized and requires to be replaced.
4. There are two rudder skirts which should be attached to the skeg. Either thin marine alloy or a teflon synthetic. When we are next slipped.
And there are is a host of small go fasts which also need to be attended to.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 29 April 2007 : 6:29:50 PM
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This morning saw me off to visit the Hagar, first time in two weeks since anyone has been aboard her. She was wet inside with a fair bit of water in the bilge and all the cushions and bunk covers were wet. They went out into the sun and wind, a great morning to be on the water! I pumped and sponged her out and got to christen the new big bilge pump for the first time. Then went to work with the teak bits and made all of the final fittings, but it was too wet to glue anything into place this time. The engine would not start with a faulty connection in the electronics. With a bit of jiggerypokey she finally fired and started almost first time. Found that the stern gland was leaking profusely so fixed by filling the gland with more grease and ha-presto no more leaking.
Also found that the electric bilge pump was out and could not get it to work. May need a new one? I think it will be the third new one in two years!
Rod is home next Saturday and we will try out the new number one genoa on Sunday.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 07:29:15 AM
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On the week end we finally got down to the Hagar and fitted the new teak pieces. The shroud plate covers fitted perfectly, just need a few large self tappers and a big tube of sikerflex to set them in place. The teak protection strip which is to cover the entrance of the companionway also fitted well, but the screws were too long and will have to procure some shorter ones so that we can insert the door. The motor started well, but Rod is ticked off with the alarm and electrics which continue to play up. Did not take down the new big jib, as we did not have enough time, perhaps next Saturday.
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Main Sheet Hand
Australia
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Posted - 08 May 2007 : 08:13:37 AM
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| Chris, your stern gland shouldn't need constant refilling with grease. It shouldn't be leaking that much. Are you sure it's properly packed and tightened? Mine needed adjusting every few engine hours after repacking, then it settled down. |
Steve (Echo)
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2007 : 12:31:12 PM
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Hi Steve,
The Hagar goes up on the slips in abot six to eight weeks and we will clean out and re-pack the stern gland then. I recall that we only put in two pieces of rope. And I belive that three are supplosed to go in, so it might be underpacked. The sterb gland had not leaked a drop over the week past.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2007 : 09:27:22 AM
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Yesterday afternoon Rod & I went down to the Hagar and found her nice and dry. Rod had had a pair of SS U-shaped rubbing strips made up and we glued and screwed them into place which was just behind the main instrument panel over the cabin.
We then motored out and raised the new big headsail. Thankfully it fitted snugly and we had a short sail under this sail only over to Manly and back to North Harbour. The new sail looks really nice but will have to see how it goes next season when we race, which will be the test.
We both had to get home so finished up early.
I have still to attack my manufactured teak pieces which should be done in the next week.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2007 : 11:54:03 AM
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THE CHILDS TECHNIQUE FOR BOAT RESTORATION
We have now owned the Hagar IV for just over two years, how time flies when one is busy. In this time the Hagar has had a lot of working hours spent upon it by Rod & the Boys as well as money. Considering that she was in a neglected condition when we took delivery of her and would have been just dangerous to go to sea in, we have come a long way. In practically all this time we have been racing and cruising as well as constantly doing work upon her.
This has come about due to Rods' rule that whenever we go down to the boat we always do a job.
Now this has not always applied when we were racing, however there were also lot of small jobs conducted when we had completed a Sunday race. Our racing results have also bourne this rule to be beneficial with a 2nd place in 2006 & an overall win in the 2007 Nationals for our division.
Chris.
And so practically not a weekend has not gone past when we have not completed some small or major work task. The result is that while we may appear to be not doing much else than work upon the boat, if fact all the small jobs of upgrade and maintenance keeps the boat at the racing edge. In addition our racing results confirm this with a steady improvement in both the twilighter as well as the National Endeavour racing fleets.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2007 : 9:08:01 PM
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Earlier this morning I ventured forth and visted the Hagar. She was surprisingly dry inside and it was a beautiful morning on the harbour with a light westerly blowing which makes for a flat harbour.
Quickly got to work and after some minor adjustment to the teak piece it was glued and screwed into position and looks good. The other two pieces will require the old glue residues to be removed from the cabin ceiling skin. Next time I'll have to to bring down some thiners to clean and prepare it.
I tried to start the engine but it would not fire and as I wished to go home early and the tender was nearbye I gave up. Most likely the fuel line needs to be bled. More to do next week.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2007 : 01:35:30 AM
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This afternoon Rod bought the Hagar into the work berth at Davis Marina. He got to and after much discussion sealed up all the gaps which have been allowing water to leak between the cabin ceiling skin fittings. We have found three skins. It would be nice to know how the ceiling was put together and if and where the drainage holes are. There should be some that leak into the bilge somehow. We will also seal the four or six rope holes in the first step of the ceiling. This must be leaking heaps of water when there is persistent heavy rainfall.
I got to and fitted the port side chain plate teak cover strip. The mechanic eventually came down late in the day and could not find our electrical and fuel faults. He said that he will be back and re-wire the engine in a different way without it being attached the motor. He also believes that the mechanical fuel pump may need to be by-passed and use only the electric pump which he installed last time.
Still more pain.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 01 June 2007 : 11:17:46 PM
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This weekend there will be no time for sailing with only a Saturday afternoon penciled in for continuing maintainence work aboard the Hagar.
SWMBOd' has ordered that the lawns need to be mowed. Had been fortunate in that the mower died about a month ago. Now it will be a mammoth job tomorrow morning. Will be house painting on Sunday.
Rod has also booked for the Hagar to be slipped in the last weekend of July when Andy & Ian will be home from their Adriatic sailing adventure.
Tomorrow afternoon will see us fixing leaks and holes then cleaning the boat as well as Rod going up the mast to callibrate the wind instruments as well as replacing a spreader light globe.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 03 June 2007 : 1:36:16 PM
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Yesterday afternoon Rod & I went out to the Hagar and got the engine to fire up after the third attempt. We think that the problem is fuel or a lack of it. That can be fixed by the mechanic under warranty. We motored over to Manly and checked out the Mark 2 E30, Kaos. She is unchanged and has not been moved with the tiller tied down hard over to starboard. There is also carpet as well as an open esky in the cockpit. She is growing conge type coral growth along the waterline and there is condensation visible on the inside of the windows. She is also low in the water and tends to lean to port and she obviously has a bilge full of water. We motored around her a few times and then spotted an old mate from our Club and motored over to him, a potential future crew member with a long experience in skiff sailing. We motored back to the marina and were joined by Old Pete. We roped up Pete who is light and hoisted him up the mast. We then re-calibrated the wind instruments; however it still does not work correctly and will be a costly replacement. We have already replaced the mast head as well as the cable and now the last part, which has been the villain all the time.
I removed the two pack-up halliards cleating platforms which are made from teak. These have split over time due to the brittle nature of teak as well as the fact that they were assembled and installed too quickly for the last nationals. Have taken them home and will re-manufacture some newies which will be bullet proof.
By this time it was getting close to 5.00pm and we were ordered off the marina.
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