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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
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 Posted - 29 July 2007 : 11:34:48 AM
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Just to contaminate this thread with some 26' related stuff!
Haul n' Coal will be having a make over soon - replace the ply windows (yeah finally) with see thru stuff, new main winches (I'm looking for 22 or 24s if anyone has a set for sale) replace the fittings we blew up at Gosford (shows you how often we have used the bloody thing)some new halyards and the installation of a carbon prod! I'm gunna fit a asso (just for fun - and delivery to and from the Lake)should be interesting - a new Doyle blade and a new heavy weather kite, we plan to sail each weekend at BB in a lead up to the titles - should give us time to get my crew up to a compedent level :)
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 29 July 2007 : 12:40:24 PM
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Good to hear that the Haulincoal is still campaigning Colin. It's just a pity that we cannot go off with you guys at the starts.
Rod has been looking at a new carbon pole and the feedback is that carbon is not going to get cheap soon. The Bowing company is gobbling up the world supplies with their new aircraft. We have a carbon stick under my house which was designed for a 14 foot skiff and it could make a good boom and the tip would make half a pole only.
And no, this thread will not be finishing! I write for myself and don't give a raspberry for most peoples opinions!
Today Rod & I will be testing an aqualung and dive on the Hagar. A tad chilly!
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 29 July 2007 : 8:52:49 PM
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This afternoon we tallied forth towards the Hagar and met the newest members of our club who have procured and re-furbished an E24. When we returned we also were approached by another prospective member who wishes to race with us. On the trip back from Hagar aboard the marina tender we fell in with an old member who has recently returned from overseas and has just had his Catalina 38 moved into North Harbour. And so in one afternoon we appear to have recruited three additional yachts to our small fleet which will bring us up to a total of seven craft for next season.
We did not go diving, it was overcast and cold. However I got to and sealed up one of the two teak chain plates with two plugs where the plates pass through it.
Rod cleaned the boat and made the coffee.
Next season is looking good. We also noted that there is another new E26 right up in North Harbour, and we are yet to launch our boat drop.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 30 July 2007 : 5:28:58 PM
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Well I know that some of you out there are very keen to know the next Hagar adventures. However you will just have to wait until tomorrow, as that is when we find out when and if we have been re-allocated a position on the Middle Harbour Slipway.
Has anyone been sailing or racing? I feel a bit of withdrawal setting in!
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Go Flow
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 30 July 2007 : 8:45:01 PM
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Hi Chris,
How do you think Hager will go against an Adams 31. We have just won 2 races on the trot. When you come up to the lake I think we should have a challenge race.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 07:11:41 AM
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Hi there Adrian,
I have no idea how we would perform against your Adams 31. The only way to compare is to race and that may never happen. The best comparison as to how you would match us would most likely how you go against the E26's on your lake at present. Just how quick we are going is always difficult to judge as we have no real bench marks and there is no history of E30s' that we can measure. We seem to be breaking new ground. The only hope we may have had was against the Splinter, however he is for sale and we may never get another shot at him. The only time we have sailed against the Splinter was at the 40th regatta and it was in light stuff and we did him easily. We do belive that we have been going quicker as we began winning and improving by increasing margins at our home club as well as in the Friday night twilighters.
Our aim is to knock off the E26s', however from past experiences it will not happen in the light stuff as our boat is a bit of a fat heavy lady. We may get the Hagar up to the Lake a week early and do some cruising before the Nationals next year. It will depend upon races in Sydney and the availability of crews.
Most Adams are fairly skinny and should go quick in enclosed waters and upwind. Have you raced against the E26s' in fresh conditions?
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Go Flow
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 10:42:04 AM
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Hi Chris,
Its early days yet, I haven't had Go Flow for very long, but we have a similar handicap to that of Imperium. I believe the Adams 31 was designed as a half tonner similar to the E30. I was told "Plum Crazy" an Adams 31 was a top halftonner at the time. We have been sailing non spinnaker during winter, but will go with a kite in the Spring. The Adams 31 is a bigger, fatter, more voluminous yacht than the E30, she carries her sail well in heavy conditions and won well last week in light conditions.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 11:14:35 AM
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Adrian,
Your comments about the "Plun Crazy" are interesting as I recall talking with Hugh Trehearne at Manly Boatshed just after they re-rigged the Hagar. He said that the E30s' were very compeditive in their day and that amoung the half tonners, Plum Crazy was the best sailed.
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Go Flow
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 4:31:59 PM
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Hi Chris,
I remember someone else came in to say that he thought Plum Crazy was not an E30. I did a search on the site for the threads referred to above. Maybe someone can throw some light on this. I searched for "PLUM CRAZY".
The threads are in the file below.
Download Attachment: [img]images/icon_paperclip.gif[/img] Plum Crazy.doc
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 8:14:42 PM
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I cannot give any light on the Plum Crazy debate at this time. However there a lot of old-timers about North Harbour and we may find out in the future. I feel shore that Hugh Treharne may have a good idea what she was because he knew a lot about E30's.
It is also interesting the similarity of the Adams 31 to the Endeavour 32's. Which came first?
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 31 July 2007 : 8:45:01 PM
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Rod has at last been given a slipping date for the Hagars' annual clean up. It is the weekend of the 10th to the 12th of August and it is all systems go for this date. Among the jobs will be sanding and preparing the underwater surface and two coats of antifouling paint, replacement of anodes. The upper sides will be acid washed with the stripes repainted and the sides waxed and polished. The stainless aft gunnels will checked and the rust problem addressed. The engine oil will be replaced, the filters replaced and with the propeller and shaft removed and serviced. And so on.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 03 August 2007 : 4:57:01 PM
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Hullo there Adrian,
How heavy, or light in tonnes is the Go-Flow? We believe the Hagar is around 3.6tonnes, but she has not been weighed. Have you sailed alongside any of your local E26s' yet and how did you perform.
It should take you a season at least to learn how your boat behaves before you can start making adjustments. The first thing we found with the Hagar was the main needing to be re-shaped and flattened. The main improvement however appears to have been the rig tension, and believe it or not, we only started to get the major improvements after the Nationals earlier this year. However some new sails should help if I can get the boys to let the moths out of their purses.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 04 August 2007 : 2:36:27 PM
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This morning Rod & I went down to Whitworths in Brookvale. It is their 15% annual Sydney Boat Show sale. And so it was fortuitous that the Hagar was delayed going onto the slipway until next weekend & we had the opportunity to buy up the maintenance gear as well as one bucket of anti fouling. Thankfully we still have one bucket left from last year which was a trophy won at Lake Macquarie. Whitworths was packed out with half of the yachties from North Harbour crowding into the chandlery. This afternoon we are meeting the engineer who is to check out the diameter of the propeller shaft cover hose which is the wrong diameter. Apparently this was caused when the builders glassed over the tube coming out of the hull for the propeller shaft. This has increased the diameter of the pipe so that it goes not conform to any production sizes. This will most likely require the pipe to be either sanded back or further packed up.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 09 August 2007 : 9:49:32 PM
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Everything is reported to be squared away and the Hagar goes up onto the slips tomorrow afternoon.
Rod has booked us into the Davis Marina and we will be bringing her is and stripping her out of sails and bedding as well as anything else that is cluttering her up late morning. We intend to clean her out internally from cabin top to bilge with chlorine to fix any mould and we feel confident that most of the leaking has been resolved. This is in addition to the anti-fouling of the hull as well as the cleaning and waxing of the sides and so on.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 10 August 2007 : 8:27:57 PM
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This afternoon the Hagar IV went up onto the Middle Harbour slipway. This is her third time up for us and it is 26 months since she was last slipped. The hull was in very good condition with practically no growth on the body of the hull. There was a low level of slime as well as a lot of barnacle growth on the prop shaft as well as the propeller and along the bottom of the keel as well as some under the top of the rudder. There is a flat section on E30 rudders which sits under the stern and is a nice spot for these critters. There was less rust spotting on the iron keel, however there remain a few spots to grind and seal.
The boys at the marina easily cleaned down the hull with their water jet. They has some good advice on anode placement. Tim stated that the round anode on the shaft as well as the large tear drop anode on the side of the hull above the iron portion of the keel were both not working and that if you put too many anodes on a boat it can have the reverse affect.
His recommendation was to replace the propeller anode, which is nearly gone, replace the large tear-drop with a single large flat button as well as place another button anode to the bottom of the iron keel which should minimise the rusting of the keel.
Its' all ahead of us tomorrow & Sunday.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 August 2007 : 9:26:22 PM
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After two hard days work the Hagar is looking good and just about ready to rock-en-roll again this coming season. She has two new coats of anti-foul as well as having the upper decks & sides washed with the sides waxed & polished. In addition the two stripes were re-painted. Andy has also sorted out some of the plumbing with a new exhaust water sump muffler and we have also rationalized the anodes. We changed the treatment paint for the iron keel and next year will get the better chemical and treat it properly. The paint treatment which we used last year has clearly not worked with some pitting developing in spots from last year. We also took out the large tear-drop anode and replaced it with a button anode which will reduce drag on the hull. While doing this we took out the two large bolts and replaced the aft one with a rod with the rod inside the hull having attached copper cables for the engine.
Another button anode will be attached to the base of the iron keel.
Some touch-up painting is still to be completed and there are some other minor adjustments to be made. Rod & I will pick her up tomorrow afternoon & take her home.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 13 August 2007 : 8:37:00 PM
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This afternoon Rod & I went down to the Middle Harbour marina and the Hagar was looking good. We had her re-launched and she started first go and we motored up middle harbour in a stiff south easterly and home to North Harbour. She was sound and dry and all of Andy's plumbing worked and much to his relief we did not sink.
However there is still of number of things to be done before she is 100%. However with a heavy dose of flue Andy did a good job to install the new muffler and piping as well as pulling out the shaft & prop and then having the prop serviced and stripped back to bare metal. She now has a coating of the new Speed Prop application which is reported to be the "ants-pants" and resistant to all the underwater nasties. She had a beautiful collection of corals and barnacles when pulled out of the water on Friday night while most of the hull was clean.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 18 August 2007 : 5:20:44 PM
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This weekend sees Rod away again playing armies and saving the world from whoever?
Meanwhile Andy is slated in to come-on-down and replace the engine oil which he did not manage last weekend. He also plans to flush the engine out with what I do not know.
If all goes according to plan I will meet him and measure up for some timber mountings as well as plan the best positioning for the re-direction of the water system for intake and cooling.
There are two timber bits to make up to mount the water siphon which will be mounted on the mast, below deck as well as a mounting bracket for the new raw water intake strainer.
We will also install a new bronze water intake tap, without sinking the boat, we hope.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 06 September 2007 : 5:12:27 PM
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Well thanks to George B and his buddies we have a long weekend. Hope the weather clears and we can go sailing. Rod has a heap of work for us to do on Hagar. It's never ending!!!! Don't we know???
We also have a lot of work planned for the sailing club and will be doing a Letter Drop on all the North Harbour Endeavour Yachts.
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bossie2
Main Sheet Hand
Australia
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Posted - 10 September 2007 : 12:03:25 PM
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Hi Chris,
She sounds like she is looking first class, I am looking forward to seeing her all spruced up.
I have the 'Bossie II' booked in for the week-end of the 22-23, I will let you know when she is actually slippped.
From your experience can you give me some idea of the things I should be replacing while her bottom is being rejuvinated, you mentioned previously that I should be looking at any plastic outlets etc, I will need to line things up with the marina regading replacement bits and pieces etc, however I am not sure what I should or should not be allowing for or doing.....
Also, do you know the actual height of the E30 Mark II as there is a 38' clearance under the rail bridge, I would assume the rig would be about 32' however I don't really know.
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A New E30
