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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 10 September 2007 :  1:08:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there Keith,
From memory our mast is a tall rig and is about 34 foot long, however you have to add the height from the water-line to the mast step, which is about 5 or 6 foot. I will check these statistics for you and come back with the correct numbers. Most of the Mark 2 E30s' have a slightly shorter rig than ours. Take a rope and tie it to the tallest halliard and pull it up and mark it off at the step of the mast.
You may not make it under the rail bridge! Best to be 100% or you could snag the mast and rip it out.
Check that the skin fittings which are underwater are bronze. If they are plastic or look like they leak, replace them. However they are most likely bronze. We have two plastics down aft which are above water and are white plastic. They are for the bilge and engine exhaust outlets. I plan to replace them next time she is out of the water.
Looking forward to seeing your boat.
Chris.
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bossie2
Main Sheet Hand

Australia
35 Posts

Posted - 11 September 2007 :  9:48:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Chris, I am measuring up so I can attach an extended ladder to the transom this week-end so I might try the rope idea. Last thing I need is to have the mast snapped off.
I am planning on doing the 'deisel for beginners course' in November (at Manly), the guy who runs it said there have been quite a few E owners through his doors, I am looking forward to it.
Cheers
Keith
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 16 January 2008 :  4:44:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like we have lost about four months from this tread.
Anyway, in reviewing equipment on the Hagar, we had "few" breakages. I can only think of the jib halyard clutch handle which is made of plastic and snapped when we were over the line and finished and had just dropped the head sail. The jib sheet had been attached to the bow and the boys pulled on the sheet and pushed down hard on the handle and it just gave way. The mechanism is fine and apparently the handle can be replaced.
The sails are another subject. We spotted a failure with a glue seam giving way at the clew after the 4th heat and we replaced it immediately with the old number two jib.
Overall the sails did the job, however the main is blown out and stretched in a number of places and being made of a soft cruising dacron will continue to deteriorate and is the number one sail which needs replacing. The next sail to be replaced should be the number 2 jib and possibly a new big kite.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2008 :  8:56:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After today's return delivery of the Hagar back to North Harbour we went back to the sailing club and the talk was on the subject of making Hagar more user friendly. In as much that we could possibly repositioning the electric switch board as well as the chart table and the tiered bunks and lockers and replace them with a saloon lounge and a chart table further forward. I know that John Anderson is contemplating doing something similar to his E30.
Any suggestions?
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 21 January 2008 :  7:04:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yesterday afternoon Rod & I went down aboard the Hagar to clean and dry her out after the wet return trip from Lake Macquarie. We had greased the stern gland the night before and found the bilge to be relatively dry. We also remover the safety lines for harbour racing and are now looking forward to Friday nights twilighter and Sundays North Harbour Race. Rod is also taking the main and number three jib for alterations and repairs.
The news is that The E24 boys will be back and racing on Sunday and with another E24 possibly joining them.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 04 February 2008 :  4:05:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Late yesterday Rod & I went out to the Hagar, pumped her out and greased the stern gland. Rod also found the old siphon break piping which is redundant under the port side bunks amidships and we removed them from the boat.
We sat down and discussed the future of the Hagar, in as much as talking about making her more comfortable when cruising.
The options are many and varied but in principle we would most likely :

1. Remove the well under the cockpit floor which would make the aft V-berth far more comfortable.
2. Remove the port side fibreglass stepped supports for the bunks there. This will entail looking at the shroud supports before anything is cut.
3. Building in a settee and bench chairs using foam and glass into the port side as well as making use of any space to build in waterproof lockers.

The moving of the engine is out, as it would affect the boats balance and racing trim.
Does anyone else have suggestions?
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 07 February 2008 :  4:06:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the trophy's which the Hagar won at the recent nationals was a voucher from one of the southern sail makers. Rod took our new/old number 2/3 kevlar jib in and for the $100.00 voucher we had the sail completely sewn up. It originally had all the seams only glued and after two failures the voucher has come in very useful.
We are very pleased with the performance of this jib, considering it was a hand-me-down off a Mumm30. I'm looking forward to sailing the boat with the recently flattened mainsail and the this new jib. While we have never achieved big boat speed through the water with this jib the high pointing ability more than pays for this illusion of going slower. Recent results against or rivals in the 30 to 45 foot section of the Manly twilight fleet has show that the boat points incredibly higher with this jib and therefore goes to windward faster than previously with the bigger overlapping head sails.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 17 February 2008 :  12:06:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yesterday afternoon, in the company of another member of the Club we went out aboard the Hagar and watched the Manly 16 foot skiff old buffers race in which Andy and Rod were racing aboard Rods' 16. Unfortunately they retired early due to breakages. When we returned the Hagar to her mooring and had her on the mooring I was was about to pump her out and found a fine spray of water in the form of a fountain issuing from the grease nipple on the brass stern gland. This is apparently the spot where we have been leaking!
Later talking with Andy about it he mentioned that the small ball inside the nipple is nickel plated and that in time that they either corrode or get stuck. Anyway Andy will bring down a new one tomorrow and replace the apparently defective fitting and hopefully this will resolve our leakage problem.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 06 March 2008 :  6:49:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last weekend Rod & myself cleaned out the Hagar while doing a check for Cat.4. We have most of the gear and all of the necessary dates and stickers etc. However we were wondering about retrieval gear for pulling bodies out of the drink in the even of a man-overboard. The one little number which we have seen is Burke Mob Retriever Float @ $188.90 in the Whitworths Catalogue.
Has anyone had experience with these devices and are the alternatives?
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 24 March 2008 :  08:30:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This afternoon, weather permitting Rod & I will go out to the Hagar and remove the safety lines as well as taking off the mainsail and number three jib for some mending of batons at the sail makers.
We have also been discussing the work to be conducted this winter when she goes up on the slips for her annual cleaning and maintenance.
We will be replacing the two remaining underwater skin fittings for the salt water intake for the motor and toilet. Although the fittings look OK they are now over 35 years and could be suspect.
Rod is also talking about replacing the electronic navigation instruments and there deck housing which is made of alloy and is heavily corroded. The Standard Horizon wind speed and direction instrument has not worked fully for the past year. Only the log and depth gauges are working.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 31 March 2008 :  6:02:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The latest goss for the Hagar is that the Rigger will check out the mast and rig after this weekend. The shroud will have to be replaced, obviously and the rest will be checked.
Rod replaced the fuse for the VHS and it appears to be working OK.
This afternoon I took the big head-sail down to the sail maker and they had it patched and were about to sew it up as I left.
We will hopefully be back in racing mode in a fortnights time.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 10 April 2008 :  3:39:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rod informed me this morning that the Hagars' Cap Shroud has been replaced as well as the two spreader arm covers also being replaced. This was done on Tuesday and the Rigger also checked the mast and pronounced it as being "good" and OK to race again.
So this weekend we will race in the last North Harbour race of the season.
The following Sunday of the 27th of April will also see us racing in the last off-shore race with Manly YC.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  8:34:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sunday saw us aboard the Hagar and before the race Andy & I got to and tightened up the new starboard side cap stay. It required about three turns of the turning bolt to match the other side at about 32 kilos on the Loose gauge.
There were no breakages during the race and we are now on Cat 4 and intend to continue the maintenance works and keep at Cat 4.
Last week Rod purchased a new hand held navigation instrument which will link into a laptop and had a wide range of functions.
We also have a big list of maintenance work when she goes up on the slips this winter.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 18 April 2008 :  8:05:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This weekend sees Rod back in the fold of North Harbour, unfortunately he missed the last race at the Club. However we will no doubt go out and clean out the Hagar and get her ready for next weekends offshore race with Manly YC. It will be interesting to see if the weather allows an offshore race or if they stage it in the harbour.
Not much to do on Hagar, just try and find a crew who turn up and are not wimps.
Chris.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman

Australia
676 Posts

Posted - 19 April 2008 :  12:01:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And like/can handle sailing on the Harbour

Anon - don't you know :)
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Greg Lowe
Administrator

Australia
217 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  3:14:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris, my email to you keeps bouncing back to me, have you received it?? Do you have another I can try??
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  4:24:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Greg,
Have not received any emails from you on this site. My work email is:
chris@sydprod.com.au
and the home email from which I'm now operating is:
smrs@optusnet.com.au

Regards,

Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  4:36:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hagar's annual clean-up is now approaching and we have a short list of must does which include:
1. Blast off the bottom and this time give her a real sanding in an attempt to remove the build-up of anti foul paint.
2. Sand and treat the iron keel and with particular attention to the rust spots.
3. Replace the water intake skin fittings for the toilet and engine, with the engine skin fitting being increased in size.
4. Paint the underwater hull with two coats of anti foul and,
5. Replace the anodes.
6. Remove and clean the prop and shaft and prime & paint.
7. Replace the stern gland set-up with a new drip free system.
8. Clean and wax the upper hull as well as fix the rust spots coming from the aft SS gunnel fittings.

And no doubt the boys will thing of some more jobs as the time approaches.

We now hold a Cat 4. safety certificate and intend to maintain this level with the possibility to up-grade if required.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  5:05:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hagar's annual clean-up is now approaching and we have a short list of must does which include:
1. Blast off the bottom and this time give her a real sanding in an attempt to remove the build-up of anti foul paint.
2. Sand and treat the iron keel and with particular attention to the rust spots.
3. Replace the water intake skin fittings for the toilet and engine, with the engine skin fitting being increased in size.
4. Paint the underwater hull with two coats of anti foul and,
5. Replace the anodes.
6. Remove and clean the prop and shaft and prime & paint.
7. Replace the stern gland set-up with a new drip free system.
8. Clean and wax the upper hull as well as fix the rust spots coming from the aft SS gunnel fittings.

And no doubt the boys will thing of some more jobs as the time approaches.

We now hold a Cat 4. safety certificate and intend to maintain this level with the possibility to up-grade if required.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 06 May 2008 :  12:57:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rod has asked me to paste a question on the choices for the replacement of our current stern gland. The Hagar has been leaking from the brass gland since we have had her and the slow leak has been stopped only by pumping the gland with grease after the use of the motor.
Chris.
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