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slammin
Deck Hand
Australia
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 Posted - 30 August 2010 : 8:42:07 PM
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Originally posted by Chris Cope
The Wind Instrument did not co-operate fully & we need to do some more work upon it. The Speed looked OK but the direction was still a bit out of allignment at times.
Hi Chris, it's been an interesting read of all the work you have done on Hagar. I have a Seaway 25 that I am slowly getting ship shape in between cruises. You can see some info here. http://seaway25yachts.multiply.com/photos
I am posting here as I am in the same situation that you were re wind instruments. I have an old Stand. Comm. wind/log/depth and have had problems with the wind direction reading out by 45' odd.
Were you able to get a copy of the manual?
Were you able to correct the reading?
I have searched high and low and yes I have checked the uploaded manuals that are archived on Stand. Comm.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 01 September 2010 : 6:03:59 PM
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It was some years ago that we began our struggles with out instrument package. Ours is the very old Standard Horizon which has changed hands a couple of times. We upgraded the wind instrument, while the old depth and speed still work OK. My advise is to chuck the lot out and spent the money on a new system which incorperates all of the above but also satelight navigation and steering.
However I will see if my partner Rod Childs has the manuals which he finally tracked down and we used to re-configure our instruments.
Send me your Email Address. Mine is: chris@sydprod.com.au
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 06 September 2010 : 04:07:22 AM
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While we got a lot of work completed on the Hagar over the last weekend of August, there is still much to do to prepare her for the next nationals. Apart from the normal go-fast upgrades, Ian and I have agreed to replace the old perspex cabin windows which are increasingly becoming heavily crazed.
With this in mind I will be contacting a mate of mine up the central coast to inquire to see what he has in the materials used these days to replace boat windows.
We also have to decide how to do the job, do we keep the boat looking original and have the alloy frames re-anodized and replace these as well with new glazing, or do we remove and completely cover and overlap the old openings in the cabin as we did with the E26?
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 September 2010 : 6:37:35 PM
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Well I finally rang Jim Buckland the only existing Life Member of North Harboiur Sailing Club and living legend. Jim suggests that we replace our windows with a tinted perspex and we determine the window thickness first. Tonight I remembered that there was a lot of talk about replacing the windows in Endeavour yachts and specifically E30's.
So I looked back in this thread to pages 5 & 6 and foumd a great deal of input from a range of people and specifically Splinter, who had replaced the windows aboard his E30.
So this weekend I will measure the windows as well as their thickness.
I will take the old windows out and shoot the frames to a local trady and have them cleaned and powder coated or annodized. I will also take the old windows up to Jimmy and get him to cut out a set of four new panes. All the old input confirms what Jimmy recommended, use tinted perspex.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 28 September 2010 : 2:09:03 PM
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Last month, when we had the Hagar up on the hard stand for her annual cleanup, the boy driving the lift crane informed us that the Hagar read at 3.8 tonnes as she came out of the water.
Now she had most of the equipment aboard with the exception of the racing sails. Most of the safety equipment is kept aboard. So that is about her racing weight.
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 28 September 2010 : 3:00:51 PM
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Not to mention the not insubstantial weight of yourself (and motley crew) Chris.
Mmmmm....don't quite know why I posted that.....a bit like the gate opening during a mark rounding I suspect. Couldn't resist. Mmmmm.....must get out more.....drink less.....sleep better....eat better.....boring stuff really.
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Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 29 September 2010 : 05:20:50 AM
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Oh Physician, heal thyself....
The truth of the matter is that the E30's while being quite heavy are in fact very tender and this is not helped by the iron keel which not heavy enough and should be made of lead. It has been discovered that many of the Mark 1 E30's which raced offshore in the old IOR & JOG racing had additional lead in the bilges and there is one Mark 1 in Sydney reported to have a winged keel.
And so the crew of the Hagar need to be handsomely built and we find that the a crew of 8 or 7 is better than a crew of 4 or 5.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 02 October 2010 : 08:26:09 AM
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Hi guys, have been involved for a while but good to see that the forums is still very active.
Chris, how did you go with your windows, you will find a major difference with clear perpex, mine after all this time is still not leaking or have any other problems with them.
However, I must get the old girl up on the slips to clean it bum.
I hope everybody has a great long weekend.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 October 2010 : 3:10:15 PM
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Hi there Kevin,
Hope that you are well, it is some time since we have spoken. The Hagar is like a good red wine, just gets better with age. Rod and I are forever finding things to fix and upgrade on her. But we are both just fixers and like to mess with boats. Rod is still racing his own 16 foot skiff at Manly and now his son is racing a 13 foot skiff.
We are still thinking about the windows. We have to find out how thick the panes are so that our friend Jimmy can make sure that he has the correct size and volume materials. We may do the job before Christmas, depends on time. Rod went off on a Pacific cruise with his family last night and will be away for two and half weeks.
I'm racing about two to three times a week and enjoying myself as a bowman on Wednesday's and Sundays and steer the Hagar on Friday night twilighters which start at Manly in two weeks time. My business is still driving me and keeps growing, even though I'm trying to slow down. Still have three kids at home and the eldest is returning from overseas next month with the "boyfriend" and we will be invaded by foreign families for Christmas, so we could have about eight or more extras to house over Xmas.
Hope to see you on Botany Bay in January at the Nationals.
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David
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 05 October 2010 : 9:41:01 PM
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Wow been a few years since i have been on the forum, great to see so many boats still active.
So you know who i am my username wasn't David i changed it when i sold my boat (Bon Doobie).
Anyway i am looking into getting another boat (just can't seem to shake the yachting bug once it's bitten) few life changes over the past few years, i now live up near Gosford and after 3 months of sitting on my verandah watching the boats sailing around i thought stuff it time to get one 
Whilst looking on Boatpoint i found 2 E30's Swan Song which i remember having a look at when she was at the the 40th (so long ago) and another MK1 called Serendpity, can't ever remember that one getting around.
Looking to do cruising these days, but wouldn't mind throwing her around the cans every now and then, have only started looking in the past couple of weeks, i forgot how some people leave there boats just too rot while they are trying to sell them, got on 1 last week and couldn't get off quick enough, just incase she broke up while i was on her 
Anyway nice to see you are all active and never now if a Endeavour comes along at the right price i wouldn't count it out.
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JohnSwan
F'ore'ard Hand
Australia
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Posted - 07 October 2010 : 09:52:00 AM
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Hi David,
Looks like I joined in just at the right time.
My 30 ft Mk 2 Endeavour will be up on the slips at Palm Beach on Mon 25 October, for anti-foul and inspection. Prospective viewers should contact me on 0413 674 230.
SwanSong ( prev Murphee's Lore of Pt Hacking ) is a well-equipped ocean cruiser, of very solid construction in 1978, taking part in many Endv Assocn events at Lake Macq, Gosford, Drummoyne and Botany Bay. Very easy to sail single-hand.
Available for private negotiation with owner. John Swannie.
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4Seasons
Helmsman
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Posted - 08 October 2010 : 8:19:12 PM
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David
Helmsman
Australia
232 Posts |
Posted - 09 October 2010 : 4:12:48 PM
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Hi John,
I'll try and make it over on the Monday (any excuse to get away from work)
Have a couple on the short list but would be good to see her out of the water, you never know i could i go for a hat trick of endeavours, first a 26 then the 28.
I actually noticed my old 26 on Boatpoint has recently been sold, she was a good old girl that one.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 14 October 2010 : 2:28:42 PM
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Hi there David,
Good to hear from you again. Did you get to see The Swan Song and the Serindipity? John's boat is a Mark 2 and the Serindipity is a Mark 1 that looks like it has had some modifications to cruise. I have seen her for sale in Brisbane some time ago and to my knowledge has not raced around Sydney. She is well priced but does not have the head room or fit-out that the Mark 2's have.
I have not been aboard the Serindipity and am interested if you have seen her? I was meaning to go out and look her over a few months ago but have been busy with work and sailing.
Regards, Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 28 October 2010 : 6:43:48 PM
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Well the Hagar is going really well and she is in good condition at this time of the season with all the work conducted over winter paying off and there is not a lot to do to prepare for the 2011 Nationals.
We are taking some water through the stern gland and the dripless system seems to have been a waste of money. I used to be able to grease the gland and she would be dry when I next went aboard, notwithstanding heavy rains when she has always leaked though the windows and down the mast.
We will most likely replace some ot the control lines for the main traveller as well as the kite sheet shorteners.
The window replacement will not take place until next winter when we have more time. Tomorrow night sees us start the Manly Twilighter races which mean we will be racing twice a week.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 18 November 2010 : 5:53:17 PM
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Last week Rod had a day off work and spent the afternoon looking closely at the leaking stern gland set-up. He came away with the conclusion that the drip less stern gland was not the culprit. He is of the opinion that the problem is the new big re-enforced hose through which the propeller shaft goes through and spins. We installed this during our recent slipping. Rod believes she is leaking at the bronze attachment point behind the stern gland and is clamped with two stainless steel round clamps.
Anyway after talking with our shipwright we are going to lift the Hagar out of the water in the coming weeks and replace the big rubber tube with a heavy duty pipe without the steel internal re-enforcing.
At least that will eliminate one source of contention.
Andy thought it might have been through a screw hole which had once held in place a rudder skirt. I had found one of these leaking and glued in a stainless screw and Andy had removed this screw and bogged the hole with a dodgy bog mix. However this is most likely not the source of our leak as the water is coming from the stern gland area and not from the stern area.
We will press on regardless.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 20 November 2010 : 10:13:17 AM
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Yesterday afternoon before the twilighter race at Manly Andy went out to the Hagar and had a good look at the stern gland and propeller outer rubber cover. He decided that the problem is most likely not the big rubber hose but is in fact the bronze sleeve and the old grease nipple. He had replaced the grease nipple at the last slipping and had mentioned at the time that the thread which is bronze is only very thin and there was not much left for the stainless bolt to bite upon.
He is now of the opinion that it is the thread which is leaking and while it is not squirting it is slowly weeping and puddling. The grease nipple is no longer required because we removed the greasy rope and replaced that system with a new dripless stern gland.
Last night after we finished the race and had packed up the boat he got to and took a small wooden jam and whittled it down and then jammed it into the hole with a hammer. No more leak? Well it was not leaking when we left the boat arounf 9.30pm and Rod has not called me to announce the the Hagar is in trouble.
Next Saturday we have booked Hagar to be lifted out and will pull the propeller shaft out and remove the bronze sleeve and Andy will take it and weld the hole closed and then re-install it into the boat. At that time he will photograph and measure it accuratly so that we can have a replacement made up.
Will this saga ever finish?
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 21 November 2010 : 6:02:42 PM
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A victory on the water report! The boat was bone dry over the weekend and we seem to have found the main leak, being the weeping old gease nipple. So next weekend is all go to finally fix this problem and move onto others.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 26 November 2010 : 08:31:26 AM
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At about 8.30am tomorrow morning the Hagar will be lifted out of the water at Middle Harbour and Andy will take out the bronze propeller bush and braise in the grease nipple hole. While she is up we will check the lower gudgeon, the anodes as well as cleaning off any slime and barnacles.
She should be back in the water early in the afternoon. Rod also wants to give the side a clean and polish.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 28 November 2010 : 04:33:36 AM
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Right on time Rod and I delivered the Hagar to the marina at Middle Harbour yesterday morning and she was lifted out onto the hard stand. We gave her a wash-down and got to work and Andy removed the propeller shaft and then the bronze bearing with the leaking grease nipple. He then took it apart and tapped out the internal cutlass bearing, which unfortunately fell to pieces. It came out in four pieces and Andy believes that over the years it has "cooked" inside the bronze tube as it is made from some synthetic material.
Andy then brazed into the grease nipple a piece of brass and cut it off flush and then sealed it over with a bronze welding stick. Finally he ground it off nicely and cleaned it up. Meanwhile Rod and Ian had been off collecting some more gear as well as looking for a new cutlass bearing, but without success. So upon their return we replaced the broken cutlass bearing into the bronze bush fitting and surprisingly it worked OK. It all went back into the boat and at around 2.30pm the Hagar returned to the water after a washing of the sides and some antifoul touch-ups. She steamed home to North Harbor without incident and there was still the old shuddering in the rudder which we will fix when we replace one of the fixing bolts which had cross cut its thread.
Andy will find a new cutlass bearing for the next slipping and we believe that the old one should be OK until then.
Chris.
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