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Graeme Watson
Helmsman
Australia
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 Posted - 01 July 2005 : 8:23:43 PM
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The lexan I used on my E24 was very strong. I tried to brake it with a large ballpein hammer. I gave up and the lexan had a few small dints in it, even near the edge. I couldn't cut it with a cold chisel. It is easy to cut with a bandsaw or jig saw and the lexan had a UV coating on one side so you need to put that side out. It is expensive but I was able to pick up an off cut from a glasier.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 05 July 2005 : 12:25:28 AM
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| I replaced all the windows on "Caroline" with acrylic - the old aluminium frames leaked and I saw no way of sealing the joins in the two halves to totally prevent water getting in. Took some advice from the shipwrights who were respraying her at the time. We make patterns so that the port and starboard sides came up the same - did them the same shape as the original windows, but allowed for 25mm overlap all the way around, plus a 3/16" countersunk bolt every 4-5 inches around the outside. Remove the old windows, fill the old bolt holes so you have a fresh go at it. Drill new holes to suit the new overlapping acrylic windows, then draw around them. Paint the bit under the new window with single or two pack black paint. Then use black Sikaflex - the paint under the Sikaflx ensures you don't have any unsightly uncoloured voids that collect mould. We also make marine grade ply surrounds for the insides, primed/undercoated/painted. Then used dome nuts to bolt it all together. Looks great and no leaks (but a lot of work!!). |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 05 July 2005 : 12:35:43 AM
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| I've fully rewired around 6-8 boats over 20 years, including one that has done a lot of offshore racing - all still problem free. Generally the fully tinned wire is so expensive as to make it untenable to use in great lengths. I solder every single end of every wire on the boat - this seems to prevent corrosion from attacking up into the wire at connections. To join smaller wires, it would be preferable to rerun the full length than join, but the "solder then heatshrink" method suggested sounds OK (perhaps a bit of Vaseline under the heatshrink will make it even more waterproof and prevent corrosion). In any large battery type wires, tin the ends using a blowtorch before fitting large crimp lugs. Crimp using the proper tool. Bolt the crimp lugs together (make surfaces shiny first and use Vaseline) and fit heatshrink over the top. If a wire is overheating and melting solder, perhaps the gauge wire is too small or something nasty is happening (short or the like). |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 05 July 2005 : 04:39:30 AM
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Can anyone tell us where to get hold of a pair of Port & Starbord bow nav light covers?
They are red & green. The lights were rewired and the globes replaced, however the coloured covers are faded & crazed and it would be prudent to replace them if at all possible.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 05 July 2005 : 08:57:23 AM
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I had to replace my Nav lights on Splinter the first year I had here Audited for Safety. Same problem, the colours had faded & crazed and got knocked back. I tried to get the originals at the Marine Exchange (second hand) with no luck.
So on with good old Ronstans. I replaced all Nav lights, masthead & combination steaming/halogen deck light.
Now there all reliable.
cheers,
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 July 2005 : 1:29:44 PM
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Well here we go, a big weekend for the Hagar 4 boys. We had the diesel serviced yesterday for the first time. New water pump seals, two fuel filters & an oil filter as well as all the fluids being replaced & a new impeller. I shudder to see the bill. This afternoon we are taking her down to middle harbour where we will antifoul, polish the sides as well as a few other odd jobs as time and weather allows over the weekend.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 09 July 2005 : 6:18:12 PM
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Have just arrived home after dropping Rodney off home. We had a huge day and the weather was with us. Because the hull is in such good condition we got two & a half coats of antiflowler on her as well as washing the decks, the hull sides & polishing the sides. Andy ground off the tiny rust spots, really quite minor & then applied three layers of primers.
He also went out & found an anode which bolted on the back of the rudder as well as a replacement for the big tear-drop anode which bolts onto the side of the keel. I took off the old log on the side of the keel, sanded it back to the glass, knocked in the hollow bolt & then patched the outside with chopped strand glass , bogged the hole from the inside & then glass patched the inside of the hull.
The hulls' old antifowling wet & dried off really easily & inside two hours we were applying our first coat.
Tomorrow we apply the third coat of antifowl and then start work on a long list of jobs which we stated on before the light closed in.
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Sasha
Helmsman
838 Posts |
Posted - 09 July 2005 : 10:03:30 PM
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antifowl
Because when you run over aquatic chickens, you do not want them sticking to your hull and slowing you down with all those feathers.
[:-eyebrows]
Sorry. couldn't resist a silly moment.
Sasha
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The more I know about horses, the more I love sailboats.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 10 July 2005 : 4:20:15 PM
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Were they Fowl feathers or Shag feathers ?
I've got to get some of this new Antifowl, it's got to be better than the Antifoul that I have been using.
cheers, for a wet/windy/cold/non boating day in Sydney. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 10 July 2005 : 6:32:08 PM
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Sunday PM.
Fair weather or fowl the antifoul went on! Yet another coat between showers. The weather was really kind to us & the painting was finished by 10am. Then Andy decided it was a good idea to pull out the prop shaft & replace the heavy rubber tube and take apart all the nuts & bolts & repack it with grease. Andy also had Dave the diver helping him, who is an Engineer. Anyway, they had fun & we hope the boat will not sink tomorrow morning when she goes back into the water. I went out and bought the conjute tube for the baby stay and a four inch base to cover the block & tackle. Also made a template for the rudder skirts which I will make up & put on the boat next time. The brains trust here recommend stiff teflon or nylon, while Kevin uses marine grade alluminium.
Both Rod & Ian were at it all day completing a long list of small jobs.
There still is a long list of like to does, but most of the must & should do jobs are now complete & she is a fairly safe & sound sea yacht. Rod is keen to do a Coffs Harbour race which I believe is a Cat 2 or 3 & we will take time as well as money to get there. All references to the old boat name were erased & the new name of "HAGAR 4" will go on next week.
All in all it was a good week-end of hard work & achievement with the boat looking great.
Well done Hagars'.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 July 2005 : 12:06:18 PM
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Monday 11.00am
Have just got off the mobile from Rod, who reports that they are sailing home in 15 knots behind them with the number 4 headsail on only and are doing six & a half knots. He reports that there is a slight leak in the stern gland which Andy will tighten up.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 11 July 2005 : 4:40:34 PM
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Gee guys, you have had a full weekend. With the weather the way it was, Saturday was great but Sunday, even the Shags wouldn't even land on any boat in Port Hacking. I didn't think you would get any work completed on Sunday. We had "Storm" warnings and bullets to about 50 knots down the bay. Didn't rain much but the wind !! I thought we may have had Iceburgs floating down Gunnamatta Bay. Great to hear that it is all coming to-gether. Re "the stern glan" I have a love/hate relationship with mine. I will repack mine next time on the slip. I have to adjust it every time I use Splinter now.
re the rudder skirts, I cannot find them under the house.
Will be interested to see how the nylon works because my aluminium has holes in it now. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 July 2005 : 6:37:13 PM
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Hi Kevin,
We had the boat on a private slipway on the Spit in Middle Harbour at the opposite end where we inspected the Walrus last week. Small, but protected by two story sheds & restaurents all around. The place was really protected from the wind, which was howling & white capping in the harbour around us. A good place to work. Rod & Andy, after bring home the boat, spent the rest of today doing odd jobs, cleaning & Rod is putting together the saftey equipment & systems to go to Category something. I think he is a safety auditor for our Club through the Y.A. Andy replaced the aft ceiling above the quarter births which had come loose & fixed the stern gland which is OK & the motor is running well. She looked great when they took her back to the mooring.
Ill' continue to be varnishing & making covers for a few exposed internal electric fixtures.
One job which I neglected to mention yesterday was that Ian tightened the Keel Bolts, which our resident Engineer, Dave the Diver advised should be done when the boat is standing on her keel. Ian made a quarter of turn on one bolt which we think has the earthing tie? |
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 13 July 2005 : 12:19:18 PM
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Chris,
If it is the earth for the HF radio (??) I usually fit the connection over the top of the nut taking the load, then tighten it down using another lock nut. This assumes there is a bit of length on the keel bolt to allow this, but alleviates the need fro loosening off the one taking the load of the keel. A coat of that yellow anticorrosion paste is a good idea too given the copper strap to steel/stainless keel bolt connection being made. |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 13 July 2005 : 12:23:55 PM
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Thanks for that Leigh, we will have a look on the weekend as we are all going for a training shakedown sail on Sunday & maybe Saturday.
There were some bolts under the engine which the boys could not get to. I'll have a look.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 13 July 2005 : 12:30:53 PM
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Chris,
You must be sitting there watching my posts come up. I am in NZ for work for the next few weeks. Have arranged to look at some Farr 1020's in Auckland (possible upgrade - am looking at selling "Caroline") - hope to get a sail in. I am only home for a week, then fly up to do Hamilton Island on a Beneteau 42S7 (Hobart boat leaving on delivery next weekend).
It's a tough life but someone has to do it! |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 13 July 2005 : 4:33:43 PM
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Hi Leigh,
Just bouncing between computers/offices at work & now at home. Enjoy your cruising in NZ. What sort on money are you looking for on the Caroline? She is the best E30 which I have seen to date and is a better all-rounder when compared to the modern boats of her size. I would say $60K area? We will be sorting out our boat finances very soon as we settle accounts to determine what the Hagar 4 is worth.
Regards, Chris. |
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2005 : 12:18:47 PM
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Chris,
One thing I have noticed looking at different boats recently, you really have to add up all the equipment that comes with them, plus the obvious condition of the boat. There is a $30,000 difference between a Farr 1020 in poor condition compared to one in very good condition with all the gear that Caroline has, so it is really hard to judge from other E30's that have been on the market recently (plus I have not seen an E30 Mk11 on the market). I guess she is worth what someone is willing to pay, but we would keep her if we could only get $60k (differential to a bigger boat would be too much). She would probably need inspection for someone to appreciate her virtues and get enthusiastic enough with the prospect of a "no work left to do" boat to part with the money! |
Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2005 : 6:46:06 PM
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This afternoon we went out for a cruise with the kids in the "Hagar 4". Rod got to & put the name on the transum as well as on the sides of the coach-house. The wind varied from 10 to 20 knots & we had the old main, which is a bit of a bag & will only be good for cruising, as well as the number three header. We got her up to 8.5 knots on the log. She had a little bit of weather helm and we could have used a bigger jib between the gusts. A very enjoyable afternoon.
Tomorrow afternoon we are going outside and will be cracking kites and we are looking forward to some fun.
Chris. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 July 2005 : 8:23:24 PM
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Today we had planned going outside with four or more crew, however two dropped out & so Rod & myself did some re-numbering of sails & then went out in what turned out to be another fresh breeze which was in the southwest. We had the log in, the newer main & the number 4 yankee headsail. Unfortunatly the clutches are not working 100% and are slipping so that both the main & forstay halliards were slipping. Nonetheless we had the Hagar doing over 7 knots upwind & 8.6 knots the best downwind. The breeze was gusting up to around 20 knots & the Hagar tracks well and you could feel her accelerate. Off the wind when she got to 8 knots you could feel her lift and at 8.4 she was really going. I was longing to have more space and a spinaker on her. However we were only cruising around the sound and the sea was flat & there were no waves to catch.
Still lots of work to do & we busted our first fitting, a plate which holds one of the main outhaul eye & cleat fittings. Rod & I are well please with our progress to date.
Chris. |
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A New E30
