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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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 Posted - 27 July 2005 : 04:26:56 AM
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David,
Rod will be out in the Hagar on Saturday watching the start of the Sydney to Coolangatta race. He will be out at about midday. We may be out on Sunday as well just cruising.
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Tony Bright
F'ore'ard Hand
Australia
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Posted - 28 July 2005 : 1:12:55 PM
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Hey guys
Had a quick sail comparison with a frind who has an E26. Put his #1 up on Mist and it was about 1.5m short at the top and ran about a metre past the shrouds. (our #1 runs back almost 2 meters back). Our #2 runs about a meter back but goes to the top. I guess it would compare to about a #2.5 in sail area.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2005 : 7:49:14 PM
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High Tony,
Shortly after taking delivery of our E30, the Hagar IV, we took the sails back to Rods' house & laid them out on his backyard lawn, measured them all & overlaid the E26 sails of the Hagar 2. It was an interesting exercise with the E30 having taller rigs, the mainsails are longer by about four feet, while the E26 main is about four foot longer on the foot. The main difference is in the headsails with the No1 E26 of similar size to the No2 off the E30. The headsails are longer footed as well as taller on the E30. The Kites are also different, with the E30 taller & not as full as the E26.
As we get to know our new boat it will interesting to see if our sailmaker can come up with something different that will make us go quicker.
Chris.
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Rod1950
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 28 July 2005 : 8:00:29 PM
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Tony, very interesting, hope your going to the October Regatta, it would great to compare the sail plan of the E28 & E30.
Regards
Rod
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Tony Bright
F'ore'ard Hand
Australia
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Posted - 29 July 2005 : 10:28:26 AM
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Hey Rod
Unfortunately we live in Melbourne and do not have the time to bring the boat to Sydney. Will be keeping in touch and listen with great interest.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 August 2005 : 12:21:39 PM
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Rod went out with a party of people over the weekend and had a good time with watching the start of the big race. Andy re-adjusted the propeller box gland as well as bringing down a grease gun & both he & Rod greased up the shaft. This seems to have solved our leak problem.
We have all been slowly whittling away at the long work list of jobs and fifty percent, which represents all of the major "must-dos'" are now completed. This afternoon I'm going down to the boat to measure up as well as cut & fit the forward hatch as well as teak seats for our spinaker pole.
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David
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 02 August 2005 : 8:36:04 PM
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I was at the start of the race and was looking for Hagar but didn't see her.
I saw E26 Clewless out there.
Shocking conditions for the start,54 minutes for the first boat to get to the heads. |
If vegeterians love animals, why do they eat their food? |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 04 August 2005 : 7:49:02 PM
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Rod & I will be working on the Hagar IV on Saturday & out late in the day, weather permitting to have a quick sail around North Harbour. Not sure about Sunday as yet. My Son plays in his Major RL Semi in the morning, maybe a sail in the afternoon.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 August 2005 : 4:10:03 PM
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Well this past weekend saw Rod ill with the flu, and although we did not get to go sailing due mainly to the lack of wind, we did get a lot of small jobs completed. We worked both afternoons of Saturday & Sunday. The ply forward bulkhead was installed, measured up for a new flooring over the bilges. It is currently badly fitted & rattles as well as bends in one spot because of the plywood grain. We plan to remove all of the carpet which is glued down to the boards & fixed floor. It absorbs and holds moisture as well as sand & grit etc. We will replace it with a groved synthetic similar to gorilla grip used on the skiffs. We carved & fitted, although not fixed two teak kite pole holders. We are awaiting the sail maker to come out & look at the big kite, which looks too small for light conditions & advise on the Kite pole length, as we really need the current pole to be a minimum of 18 inches longer. Rod also took home some of the bedding to be stitched up. He also has changed most of our sail numbers. Our new numbers are NH14, which is for North Harbour Sailing Club & of course our 14 number is the past connection with fourteen foot skiffs.
We also had a meeting with our Racing Committee & we will be shortly posting the Racing Calendar for North Harbour Sailing Club.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 08 August 2005 : 4:56:53 PM
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Hi all Endeavourer's, what a great weekend !. The weather was fantastic, Sunday around Port Hacking saw the wind around lunch time come in at about 15 knots from the SW and we had a fantastic sail. We Cruised to Wattamolla with the Port Hacking Cruise group. Have a look at the site and photos. Open the page and click on the photo.
Splinter is the blue boat rafted up between two other yachts at the back of the fleet.
http://www.rmyc-porthacking.com.au/hello.trim/Completed%20Events.htm
We had dolphins around us all the way down the coast.
I would love to put photos up but do not know how.
Sorry Chris & Rob that you had to work, but boy oh boy with a winter like this we all have to enjoy.
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Edited by - Splinter on 08 August 2005 5:01:14 PM |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 10 August 2005 : 6:06:39 PM
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This week marked a major breakthrough with our E30. I found the Blue Book which was lost in our house for the last six months! Have enjoyed re-reading it and returning it to Rod, who owns it. There is so much usefull info. I never cease to be amazed at the extra bits I learn every time I look in it.
Bring on the next edition. Am currently working on new floor boards to eliminate the rattles when the motor is running, we hope.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 August 2005 : 8:26:26 PM
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Tomorrow afternoon, Saturday the 13th, Rod & I will be going out for a sail on the Hagar IV in the area of the sound. We both have sailing withdrawn, having not sailed in a few weeks.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2005 : 10:39:25 PM
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This afternoon Rod & I went out for a motor run in the Hagar IV. There was practically no wind until we got to Reef Beach & then a light south easter came in. We hoisted the old main & the No1 header & sailed up the harbour to Shark Island. There were very few boats out & we had the harbour to ourselves. Sailing back to North Harbour the wind died out when we reached South Head & we motored home. Sunshine, a few beers & a lovely afternoon. We might do it again tomorrow.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 15 August 2005 : 10:57:16 AM
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On Sunday afternoon Ian, Rod, Rods' son & myself went out in the Hagar IV & found a magnificent noreaster blowing. We hoisted the old main & the No1 header & reached out into the sound. From there we hoisted the No1 kite & blasted off down the harbour in an 18 knot strengthening Noreaster. She was clocking 6.5 to 7.5 and in the gusts to 8.44 knots on the log. Cannot say if it is accurate or not. We will have to have it checked & re-calibrated in necessary. However Rod is of the opinion she is going quicker than the old Hagar E26 by a knot or more. We sailed behind Shark Island & dropped the kite & hoisted the No3 header & romped back up to North Harbour. She tracked well & we could have had a reef in the mainsail. The headsail choice was correct & although an old one she is in good condition. The boat pointed high & sucked up to windward with out much use of the tiller.
It was a great late afternoon sail & we are now planning a trip to Pittwater in a couple of weeks. We are also talking about a new mainsail in the near future.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 16 August 2005 : 7:58:53 PM
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After reflecting on the weekends sailing as well as the performance of the Hagar IV it is apparent that the old mainsail is stretched & badly shaped with too much of a "V" in the middle of the sail. The newer sail is unfortunatly made of similar cloth & the sailmaker says that it too will quickly loose its shape. They are both made of a soft cruising cloth. What has been learned is that as the breeze strenthens & the mainsail needs to be de-powered we have to pull hard on the backstay as well as the baby stay which puts a good bow curve in the mast & flattens the mainsail. In addition you have to pull down on the luff. This results in the mainsail flattening as well as the lower shrounds going a little loose on the louward side. The mast does not bend a lot but the more it does the more you de-power & hence carry the full mainsail into a higher wind range without reefing. We have not been to the point of reefing as yet. The learning curve is continuing.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 16 August 2005 : 11:47:51 PM
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Chris - saw you out there - looked excellent.
Way you were sailing sounds just like I handle our 26 when it gets breezy - we never reef the main unless we're twilighting or cruising as it ends up fuller and creates a lot of drag - especialy with an overlapping headsail.
We also crank the vang on very very hard and sail on the mainsheet - dropping the traveller in gusts just blocks the slot up. Using sheet alone the top of the sail twists off and depowers - as long as there's enough luff tension on.
Also tend to drop the jib car back a loooong way in those sorts of conditions to prevent teh slot blocking up. Twisted off that way you also get a really wide groove to steer in. We fund that makes a big difference on the 26.
We won a race in the E26 nationals a few years back on Botany Bay with a full main & #3 in 30 knots or so, I think we were the only boat in the fleet with both sails up...
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 16 August 2005 : 11:58:38 PM
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Chris - if you want to calibrate the log, there's a measured mile in the Harbour between the stone column plonked incongruously on the end of Bradley's Head and the flag mast on Fort Denison. The course is 268/088 Mag (ish). The column was placed on Bradleys Head decades ago for that very purpose. The measured mile notatons were taken off the charts ten years or so ago, in the interests of limiting traffc in the main lanes. There's another measured mile up around Cockatoo Island that is still on the charts as I recall.
You need to do two runs to compensate for the current and wind. Strictly speaking, calibrating to the GPS only works when there's no current, or where you can manually enter a correction for the current if you happen to know what it is at the time and your trigonometry is OK...
The current at Bradleys can run at up to a knot or so.
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Go Flow
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 17 August 2005 : 08:59:07 AM
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Hi David,
I am surprised you can crank on the vang and have the top of the sail twist off. The effect of cranking on the vang is to keep the leech taught and prevent the sail twisting. On Imperium we do not use a lot of vang tension. If we are looking for more twist we would ease the vang, but then we have a very elaborate system for playing the mainsail. Last Wednesday we sailed in very strong gusty westerly winds which according to one of our larger well equiped yachts reached 38 knots in the gusts. We sailed with a No2 genoa and a reefed mainsail. Early in the race I thought about pulling out but we persisted and finished third on handicap.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2005 : 11:36:14 AM
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Thanks for you inputs David & Adrian,
We will be putting in more "toys & strings" on the boat in the form of a cockpit adjustable main luff down haul, which we currently have to adjust from the mast as well as a system for reefing the mainsail. We have some of the blocks on the boom only & currently would have to manhandle it to lash it down. As Rod said, we still have a lot of learning & minor things to do before we jump into new sails.
David, which boat were you on? We did sight an E24 north of Shark Island but were busy enjoying the uphill rush to get the number or name.
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Andy Eaton
Deck Hand
Australia
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Posted - 19 August 2005 : 6:45:05 PM
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| Ian and I attended a fantastic course on marine deisels last Saturday. Run by Warringah Community College $149 for the whole day and covered everything you want to know about inboard deisels. I do a lot of work on my own cars, including deisel Patrol, and I leant heaps. Course in run by Laurence Burgin of Marine Stainless at Harboard. He sells parts and tools and works on engines. Course runs about every 3 months. You go next time Copey! |
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A New E30
