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Sasha
Helmsman
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 Posted - 19 August 2005 : 7:34:57 PM
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There is nothing like that class being held in Melbourne. Can you send me any details and contacts. I think I will fly up to do this!
I can fix anything on our yacht (which makes Margaret feel a lot better), but I am crap on fibreglass and only "know" about diesels in a change-the-oil and swap out parts kind of way...
Time and practice will see my GRP work improve....but my ignorance of the diesel is annoying to me.
Thanks
Sasha
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The more I know about horses, the more I love sailboats.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 19 August 2005 : 8:04:05 PM
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Sasha,
I will try & find out when the next course is on. Rod & I should go to this course too. We are both a bit scratchy on boat engines. Accomedation should not be a problem for you as you can stay with us. The courses are run near our home.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
124 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2005 : 01:15:51 AM
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Adrian,
The top of the main does twist off very well, and it's not because the boom bends, tho' it certainly does a bit with the traveller on the bridge deck which is slightly helpful.
The real trick is to get the sail as flat as a board using mast bend and loads and loads of cunningham and of course outhaul. This straightens the section shape of the sail and pulls the draft way forward to around 10 - 15% of chord. It also slackens the leech of the sail relative to the luff, without actually letting it hang out sideways much. With the back 3/4 of the section almost dead flat it then sorta' opens out in response to gusts by itself to an extent, and twists the power off pretty easily, more so with a slight ease on the sheet. I'm told that the newly fashionable "square top" mains used on multihulls and Volvo 70s etc exploit this effect to the extreme by using their giant roach as a lever to open the leech out in gusts automatically.
The other bonus is that the centre of effort of the sail moves forward in this trim, and progressively further forward as the leech opens out, which cuts a bit of the nasty weather helm E26s get in gusts.
If the luff of the sail isn't set very tight, and/or the sail stays full - especially at the back, the leech certainly does stand up much more as you say. In that case you certainly do lose the twisting/depowering effect, and you'll certainly get big weather helm too. Other thing that happens is that when you dump the sheet the power comes off "all at once" and vice versa - this leads to some pretty radical changes in the load on the tiller. On our E26 we've often found ourselves in a situation where this effect leads to the helm and main sheet trimmer getting out of synch and "fighting" each other in a sort of a vicious circle, look back at the wake and the boat is zig-zagging along half a knot below target speed!
As a sail ages it deepens, the max draft point moves aft and the "max vang" technique loses its edge.
I sail as mainsheet hand on larger offshore boats (hence don't get to race my E26 much as I want to) where this technique is used often, especially on boats with big overlapping jibs like Beneteau 40.7s f'rinstance. I've done a couple of Mike Fletcher courses over the years - he's also an advocate of this approach.
Cheers
David |
Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy. |
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
124 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2005 : 01:18:51 AM
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| Chris - I confess, I was out on a non-Endeavour with my 5 year old. A Tradition 30 to be precise. My Watershed sits a little forlornly on its mooring just off Redleaf pool in double Bay waiting for the twilight season to begin! The underwater bit looks like a seafood pizza. |
Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy. |
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Go Flow
Helmsman
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 20 August 2005 : 10:18:52 AM
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Hi David,
You mentioned weather helm on an E26. Imperium is one of the best balanced yachts I have ever sailed, and I have had quite a few. Providing we change down to a No 2 genoa at the right time and reef the main when it really blows she behaves very well and needs minimum correction from the helm. When I owned E26 Cervantes in the 1980s other owners suggested that E26s had severe weather helms but I suggest it all depends on how the yacht is set up. Cranking on the boom vang may be one factor. But I have never had a severe weather helm on any of the five Endeavours I have owned. Similarly my E24 Synergy Too was well balanced.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 22 August 2005 : 6:01:46 PM
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This past weekend was a Grand Final Fever weekend. My sons' under 16 Rugby League side won 26 to 12 & there was much rejoicing. There was no sailing & Rod did a little bit of work on the Hagar on Sunday afternoon. On Saturday we had the North Harbour AGM. Rod & I again find ourselves running the Club. This year we will start a Yacht Racing Division & I will post the sailing Calender when all the bugs are ironed out. All are welcome to join us for some serious social racing.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 22 August 2005 : 7:13:41 PM
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Chris & Rod I think you guys should explain what you 2 have taken on !, If there is anything we can co-operate on I would think the RMYC Pt Hacking would get involved.
We have our programme out now, so I would think if you work things in with other Club plus your racing you would have a great season.
I am waiting for your programme.
cheers, |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 22 August 2005 : 8:29:28 PM
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Kev,
We have the Calendar for the season made up, just need to meet with the Committee to check that it is all OK.
Kevin, are you a member of the Blue Bazer Club? If not then we must introduce this fine Club Tradition to the uninitiated of the Endeavour fraternity during the October Regatta.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 28 August 2005 : 5:56:06 PM
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This weekend saw only Ian going cruising up the harbour with the family. Rod was involved with the Army & I was busing catching up on home chores.
With regards our sailing club, North Harbour SC, this year we will be for the first time starting uo a Yacht Racing Division. we have four starters & will be doing a drop off around the top end of the harbour in the next few weeks. We especially are aiming at smaller yachts up to 30 foot who are harbour yachts. We will be heavily promoting the social side of the sailing and will be sailing alternative Sundays to the Manly Yacht Club. Will post the calender for those interested shortly.
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 28 August 2005 : 7:02:33 PM
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Hi, all Endeavourers & Chris, well I had a weekend not on an endeavour but an Adams 57. Talking to a mate on Friday night and the forecast was for southerly on Saturday and NE on Sunday. So being a young boy a heart I just had to join in on the sail - Port Hacking to Pittwater. Arrived late the wind dropped off but we carried the kite from Botany Bay to Barrenjoey and Auto helm "Fred" worked hard. We partied hard on the foredeck.
We what could anybody say about to-day. The perfect winter day, we left Barrenjoey headhand at Midday, carried a .75 oz kite all the way home. Then at 4.0 pm we were playing with the dolphins off Jibbens beach. Never seen so many dolpins in one pod.
All this little chipper can say is what a weekend ! Many thanks to the RMYC at Broken Bay what a great Club.
I think the only time I could think of another boat. Bad thought !
Chris, answer your messege bank, thought you might come out went we past the Heads of PJ> |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 29 August 2005 : 5:49:07 PM
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Sorry for not coming back to you Kev. Was out with the misses & had left the phone at home. Did not get out on the water this weekend. Should do so next week. Tomorrow, if I can get away from work early enough will go to Mona Vale looking for a second hand kite pole about four metres long. As well as inflateables.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 31 August 2005 : 6:25:30 PM
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This afternoon I visited the second hand chandler at Mona Vale. What a manadgery? of fittings. They sold a four metre pole last week for $100.00, rats!
Went around to visit my old mate Dougy, ratbag Harris of Goldspar. They had straight sections for $283.00 or would make up a double-ended spun-tapered pole for $530.00. But the rigger there offered a pole he has at home for around $100.00 which is tapered. So it looks like I now only have to find & buy some ends & he will put it all together. The next job is to have the wind instruments calerbrated & do a check for Cat 7.
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david_eastwood
Main Sheet Hand
124 Posts |
Posted - 01 September 2005 : 3:52:16 PM
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| Chris & Rod - Where did you slip the new Hagar? I'm looking for a Sydney Harbour slipping option that doesn't cost a bomb. |
Shed boy #1, the one holding the stick thingy. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 01 September 2005 : 6:02:21 PM
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David,
Contact Rod Childs via email. His is our point man & has a friend, where we get out boat sipped & do all the work ourselves.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 September 2005 : 7:46:55 PM
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Well... , yesterday Rod rang & asked the question whats on Sunday?...& of course I answered,...It's fathers day!...to which Rod replied,...and what do we do on Fathers day?...to which I replied, ...we go sailing, as you do!...of course!
To this Rod said, Well Ive' told "She Who Must Be Obeyed" that we are going to lunch at the fish markets for fathers day with the Cope family, by yacht . And so I informed Misses Cope that we were going to the Fish Market on Sunday for a Fathers Day luncheon treat!...as we should, & if it gets windy along the way,...well, we'll have a nice ride.
And who says women are cunning?
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 02 September 2005 : 8:11:09 PM
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Almost forgot, Last night we had our first Sailing Club Sailing Committee meeting. Please find attached our sailing booklet SAILING CALENDER for 2005 / 2006.
SPRING
AUTUMN
Race No.
Date Start Race No. Date Start
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18/9/05 HCP 8 16/1/06 HCP
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2/10/05 HCP 9 30/1/06 HCP
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16/10/05 HCP 10 19/2/06 HCP
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6/11/05 HCP 11 5/3/06
Harbour Tour SCR
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13/11/05
Islands race SCR 12 12/3/06 HCP
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27/11/05 HCP 13 2/4/06 HCP
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4/12/05 HCP 14 16/4/05 HCP
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 04 September 2005 : 6:11:58 PM
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Well after completing the annual antifouling (and Chris' fowling and shaging) we had spare time yesterday so I removed the hatch to have look between the ceiling lining and the saloon deck. I was suprised to find the answer that I was nervous about finding out. I must replace the handrails on top of the cabin for safety. The answer is that Reg in his endeavours to produce a strong working mans yacht - there is bit of 2x1 fibreglassed into the deck hood so the handles are just screwed in with a 2" x 10 s/s screw. "simple".
Could have been a very expensive process - now a $33.00 job. great !
Now replace/seal and so sailing.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 04 September 2005 : 7:45:33 PM
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On Friday afternoon Rod & I visited the Splinter & Kevin at the RMY Club at Port Hacking. The Splinter was up on the slips there. We found she had been cleaned off & was almost ready for anti fowling. We had an interesting look over the Splinter & it was good to compare the Splinter to the Hagar. They are identical in layout, but differ in many minor areas. Most of these differences are through individual choice & in many areas we still have some catching up to do.
Today we did not end up going to the fish markets, however we went out to the Hagar & did some minor work & ran the engine. She was mainly dry inside. Our new kite pole section was delivered this morning by the rigger & I will put it together this week.
Chris. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
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A New E30
