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David
Helmsman

Australia
232 Posts

Posted - 19 September 2006 :  5:47:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Chris you can take one of those E28's for sale of your list.

I have taken Bon Doobie of the market, will be getting some work done to her over the next 2-3 weeks, then front up for the clubs summer series and twighlights.

I'm actually a bit excited about going sailing again.

David.

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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 19 September 2006 :  7:01:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to hear that David. The Bon Doobie is a fine craft and you should try and come to the October as well as the Nationals regattas. There was another E28 at this years Nationals, the name of which I cannot recall. She was the same colour scheme as our E30 and kept improving as the series went on and will be a good bench mark for you.
There are also two additional E30s' to add to the fold. The Systems Outage which is at Lake Macquarie and owned by John as well as the Santana which is also form Lake Mac and owned by John Mac.
Both are keen racers and will be keeping the Hagar honest.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 21 September 2006 :  7:58:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RRRRight,
Now with the Bon Doobie withdrawn from sale, it means that there are now five Big Endeavours for sale. There is one E28 listed as Sold, one stray 30 which some southern scoundrel managed to get in as an Endeavour. Then there is the Bon Doobie, withdrawn. That leaves the following legitimate Endeavour Big Boats for sale:
1. The E32 listed in Melbourne and has been there forever. Sasha did an inspection on this boat some months ago, with picies on this site.
2. The E30 in Qld., which is named the Ginger? and has been also been on & off the list for a couple of years.
3. There is the E28, Moonlight Lady which looks a bit "rough".
4. The final boat on the List is Johnos' E27 which is a well known performer and campaigner.
5. The final boat for sale is of course the E30, the Splinter which would by far be the best boat on offer.
So get in while they last!
Chris.
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Splinter
Helmsman

Australia
500 Posts

Posted - 22 September 2006 :  7:30:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Splinter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chris & all, I will be placing "Splinter" with David Bray but I will not take it off her mooring in Gunnamatta Bay. I will still be racing in the Twilights and Cruising still to enjoiy my sailing. I have taken my crew over to a Dufour '35 and we will see how that goes, overwise My girl will start to race again. Will take 20 mins to get Cat 4 safety.
Gee other Skipper have funny ideas how to keep crew !!!! I'm speachless.
cheers,

"Splinter"
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 03 October 2006 :  6:02:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was good to see John Anderson at the Drummoyne Regatta on the weekend with some of his crew and getting out on the water in a loal boat.
His news is that the Aldwell, his E27 is still unsold and needs a new home. Is there anyone interested in a sturdy campaigner?
The other news is that his E30, the Systems Outage is on the hard stand and is being worked upon and he hopes to have her sailing in the new year. Lets hope for the Nationals or the June weekend regatta. Ando needs encouraging as well as a pit of help getting on the internet and conversing with us all on this website.
Way to go Johnno!
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 05 October 2006 :  1:54:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just brousing the for sales and noted that there is a new E27 posted for sale in Qld. at $26,900.00.

She looks like a reasonabley neat yacht.

Chris.
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David
Helmsman

Australia
232 Posts

Posted - 05 October 2006 :  6:06:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,
The 28 that is listed in Qld (moonlight lady)i wonder if it is a 28.

Not that the photo's are much to go on for size but she doesn't look beamy enough to be a 28, it has full headroom, engine at the rear, 3 windows.

Not to say she hasn't been modified(motor/headheight), there isn't many 28's to compare with but i have never seen one yet with 3 windows, but as i say, i have only seen 6, so that means there is about another 6 out there?

We are a small but quality bunch


David

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Go Flow
Helmsman

Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 05 October 2006 :  11:30:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All E30 lovers,
I viewed "System Outage" on the hard at LMYC slips today. John (Ando) was hard at work sanding the topsides. He has a lot of work to do. The latest is, he is installing a sail drive, I suspect this is the first in an E30 although I know of at least one E26 (Four Seasons) that has this modification. It will be interesting to see how the change in weight distribution effects its performance.
Adrian
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 06 October 2006 :  1:58:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Adrian,
Did you get any photos of the Systems Outage? I beleive that you have hit the nail on the head with your comment on weight distribution. I would not have the engine in any other place than over the keel. This is why I belive that our boat, as heavy as she is, about 3.6 tonnes is still competitive with other classes, including the E26's. We are looking forward to racing against Andos Systems Outage as she sounds like she is identical to our Hagar & the Splinter as Mark 1 E30s'. Both the Kiatoa & Swan Song have their engines under their cockpits and seem to sit bow up and do not perform as well as Hagar. They may be a fair bit heavier as well. It would be interesting to do a weigh in at the Nationals to see how they come in for weight. Rod is fanatical about keeping the Hagar bare of all unnecessary gear. No spare oil, fuel, water, except on trips and no baggage.
Try and get some photos of the Systems if you can.
Regards,
Chris.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 06 October 2006 :  9:51:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Copey,

If you guys are serious about getting a more level playing field for handicapping, perhaps consider AMS, for which certificates are issued cheaply through the Victorian Y.A branch. The boats are weighed plus measured but after that the certificates do not cost much to keep current (unlike IRC). Food for thought...
By the way.... has Rod got you guys on a diet as well...shed those extra kilos!!!

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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4Seasons
Helmsman

723 Posts

Posted - 06 October 2006 :  11:13:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris , perhaps you should be carefull when rod is getting rid of the excess baggage...E.H
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Splinter
Helmsman

Australia
500 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2006 :  10:13:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit Splinter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Leigh, the idea of AMS is good however our Endervours do not rate well at all. I have had Splinter measured and has AMS rating. However everybody agreed the handicap was incorrect. Our Club has now dropped it. Great idea though at the time.
cheers,

"Splinter"
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2006 :  10:14:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fair enough - sunds like not a good idea as a handicap for club racing - might put an end to the handicap issue at Endeavour regattas if it is worth the hassle of everyone getting AMS certificates. Out of interest, what did the boat weigh?

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2006 :  12:12:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are also interested in the weights of the E30s' and would like to know what a Mark 2 E30 weighs in at. Adrian said that Andos System Outage weighed in at 3.2 tonnes, but that was with the motor out and most likely without the mast & rig.
Chris.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 08 October 2006 :  6:46:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know a lightly built 30 footer here in Hobart weighed in at 3350kg (stripped according to IRC weighing rules - no fuel/water/sheets etc)- would have thought an E30 might be more than that.

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 22 October 2006 :  09:55:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Overnight there has appeared an E30 Mark 1 for sale on the Boat Point site for sale. She is in Manly, Qld. and is listed at $30,000.00. From the photos she appears to have been recently renervated, is clean and efficent looking. She looks like an excellent buy at $30K.
Here is what the site says about her:

A spacious and versatile cruiser/racer - "Serendipity". Excellent condition. GRP built by Endeavour yachts. Sleeps 4 adults in comfort. New rigging, hull is fully refurbished topsides and below waterline. No osmosis, hull is perfect. Antifouled Aug 06. Furler with either jenoa or No4. Two spinnakers, new pole. Dodger and generous biminy. Plough anchor and 30m chain. Anchor winch. Yanmar 15HP - Fully reconditioned 2001, very reliable workhorse. 100l diesel tank. 80l water. Two marine batteries + solar panel. Depth sounder and speedo. 27MHz. CD/Radio. W/C. SS gas stove, galley. Enormous storage and locker space. 10ft tinny and 2HP Johnson. A pretty yacht, great for day sailing or leisurely overnights. Berthed at Manly boat harbour in Brisbane. Owner is also selling 10m berth as seperate sale.

Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 23 October 2006 :  8:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone seen this boat, the Serindipity and or know her history? She looks too god to be true at the asking price and would be a steal if she is a sound boat.
There are now two E30s', two E27s', one E28 and one E32 on offer for sale that we are aware of.
Chris.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 24 October 2006 :  6:55:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,
I agree - if the gear is as it sounds, there would be a lot of dollars worth of it alone.
Bargains are unusual though......

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 04 November 2006 :  7:32:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good evening Endeavour lovers. Today saw a new E30 posted for sale on the Boat Point web site.
This is a boat which I have never seen before and looks like another Mark 2 type E30. She is dark blue and has recently been renervated. She looks OK and I have emailed to the Broker for further info. She sounds like she is up at Pittwater and for the $32,000.00 asking price sounds like a good buy. Here are the details in the advert:
ENDEAVOUR 30

At our Pittwater Office - for inspection appointment please call (02) 9999 3311 - for a detailed Inventory and more Photos email dby@justsail.com.au

* Classic old 1/2 tonne race yacht that went into fibreglass production.
* Very pleasant to sail, very capable offshore, great roomy starter yacht.
* Current owner has cleaned up interior.
* 20 Hp diesel motor, near new rigging.
* Exclusively for sale with David Bray Yachts.

$32,000

For a detailed inventory and additional photos please email dby@justsail.com.au
To assist you best we only work by appointment - please phone (02) 9999 3311, 358 days a year

Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 08 November 2006 :  11:02:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have just recieved an email from the Brokers for the E30 lying in Pittwater. Her name is the "Vega", she is dark blue with a gold stripe.
There is little in the inventry to get excited about with a lack of instruments a fixed three blade prop, two only barlow winches, the 20 HP Diesel is listed as a Bukh Series DV20. There are two mains, two jibs & two genoas. A sounder, a windex wind instrument, there is one house & one engine battery, one electric bilge pump a sun awning and a swim ladder and she is listed as having been built in 1977.
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