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akeir
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Chris Cope
Skipper
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 Posted - 14 May 2007 : 3:37:28 PM
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Rod Childs & I inspected this E30 just over two years ago. She is the Hollywood and is a Mark 1 E30. This is the second or third time it has been offered for sale in the past two years. She was sold to the chap who looked at her before us, he paid around $35K. She appeared to be a sound craft and had been painted. The owner had put in a steering wheel as well as the heavy SS stern davits and the side ladder. The engine is located under the cockpit down aft. The mast needed painting and the downstairs looked like mark one with a fold down table and bench chairs which converts into a double berth. The engine looked oldish and they may have but in a new one.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 3:40:13 PM
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Rod Childs & I inspected this E30 just over two years ago. She is the Hollywood and is a Mark 1 E30. This is the second or third time it has been offered for sale in the past two years. She was sold to the chap who looked at her before us, he paid around $35K. She appeared to be a sound craft and had been painted. The owner had put in a steering wheel as well as the heavy SS stern davits and the side ladder. The engine is located under the cockpit down aft. The mast needed painting and the downstairs looked like mark one with a fold down table and bench chairs which converts into a double berth. The engine looked oldish and they may have but in a new one.
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 3:41:23 PM
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I cannot understand why anyone would want to put in wheel steering for something as small as an Endeavour, all it does is add weight and loses sensitivity , but then they did put on rear davits as well...
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 3:59:54 PM
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Don't be scared, Andrew, but my endeavour Fortis is getting wheel steering.
There are good reasons, especially if you are not a dedicated racer.
Sasha
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 4:46:34 PM
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Sasha Sasha Sasha .. No dont do it.. please.. you are throwing hard earned money down the toilet. Think of all the complexity, the weight .. I dont think it really saves that much room.. it isn't direct, it means the helms person is much more restricted as to where they can sit..
Compare all the pulleys, the cables, the bearings, the pedestal to.. well.. a stick... a piece of lovely wood.. ..
oh.. I think I see now,
knowing your love of all things metal, can I offer a small suggestion.. why not fabricate a metal tiller, it would be cheaper and more reliable than a wheel and would still be metallic and would become a show piece for your boat.
Cheers
Andrew
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doc
Main Sheet Hand
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 5:48:03 PM
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Steve (Echo)
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. |
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 5:48:33 PM
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Hmmm...A metal tiller of scrollowrked stainless and bronze, in the style of Negroli's heroic armours...with maybe a touch of chellini's enamalwork for the knob on the end.
What a great idea!
Actually I have come up with a pretty simple and responsive wheel steer system, using Morse sheaved cables in place of more then 10 pulleys. I do not consider the system complex...And I REALLY REALLY like having my huge Richie binnacle mounted compass in front of me. As well as a place to mout the chartplotter display and the drinks tray....
If I am stuck with hand-steering for hours at a time, I find it easier with a hweel, especially as you get one of those nifty shaped cusions under your bum.
And when all is said and done, the tiller can be plugged back in and used anytime...and even removing the pedestal (the way I will set it up) is not too nightmarish...So maybe pedetsal for cruising and tiller for racing, if I ever get that fanatical about racing.
Sasha
If I do go back to tiller, I will be sure to do some nice bronze repouse work of seamonsters and dolphins and such. Hmmm...but then there is Chellini's salt celler...You really can't go past Neptunes hot-tub party as a theme for a yacht.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 7:10:56 PM
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I cannot understand your reasons Sasha for wanting a wheel. The cost and time spent on a wheel is just over the top. A rig which is set up correctly will result in a well balanced and easily steered yacht and you will have little weight upon a tiller helm. And, I enjoyed making the spare till for the Hagar! A lovely piece of WA Red Jarrah which is lacquered and a work of art. And will be an amazing weapon to repel borders etc. The other chaps are correct, all the paraphernalia involved in the wheel and its'' stand will clutter the cockpit while the cables will be a mess below deck. I would not want one in an E30, but an E26...help.
I think you will be pulling it out in a short time.
Chris.
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 7:14:58 PM
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Sasha , you could start a new business.. think of the Grand Prix yachts .. not with that boring high tech carbon rubbish, but armed with a ferociously bronz "repoused" tiller, surely this would strike fear in the enemy, causing them immediately go into 720 degree penalty turns just so they dont offend the bearer of such a weapon.. .. blood on the water .. (Can you make jousting sticks for yachts? Why am I suddenly reminded of the film "The Castle")
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Sasha
Helmsman
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Posted - 14 May 2007 : 8:35:39 PM
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We have in fact jousted a'pleaseunce (blunted lances) from rowboats on the upper yarra as part of a display we did. It was in the style depicted in a late medieval painting.
Getting knocked into the water was not too horrible, one of our guys got knocked straight back and into his two roawers and gunwals. Lots of blood from a scalp wound, and they capsized the boat for good measure. No mess below deck, It mounts into the front wall of the engine well, and from there it is just the two sheathed cables running back with no mess.
But I can tell you will not be convinced, and nor do you have to be. This is my own pecadillo to chase (having spent 14 years chasing armadillos, chasing after a spritely pecadillo seems fresh and challenging). We shall see how it turns out. I am willing to conduct the experiment on my own boat and not use anyone else as a guinea pig. Then we shall know if I am on to something or if Chris is going to spend the next ten years laughing at me.
Sasha
Cost is not a factor. I got the pedestal and wheel for effectively nothing (also came with an autopilot). I made more by selling the bad binnacle compass that came with it then I spent on th whole setup. One of my deals.
So far it has cost me about $85 for the big richie binnacle compass in its stainless steel lockable nest, and about $45 for the Morse cables. I can do deals.
I have the original quadrant, but think it is oversized and fabricated another in stainless. So cost is pretty minimal (bolts, silastic and tie downs for the cables). |
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moakley
Helmsman
Australia
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2007 : 4:11:33 PM
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Well the time period for biding on the Hollywood has expired and as we expected there were no bids.
These boats normally sell better in private negotiation. Still, she is a good buy at around $35K. And,...you could get rid of the steering wheel and SS davits ect. Less weight! Do not care for the engine being down aft, but it makes for a cleaner cabin area.
We paid about the same amount of money for the Hagar but she had a lot more going for her and we were pleasantly surprised to find a huge locker of sails and a layout for racing. The Hollywood lacks much of this and it would cost somewhat more than the $15K odd which we have poured into Hagar so far to make the Hollywood safe and competitive.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2007 : 01:41:26 AM
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The Boat Point list of the bigger Endeavour yachts has leaned out somewhat, and while there are five craft listed, one has been sold the other is not an Endeavour (No1).
There is now one Mark 2, the Splinter, one Mark 1, the Bojangles and one E27.
However there are two other E28s' which are interstate, one in Brisbane and the other in Perth.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 28 May 2007 : 8:31:39 PM
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This afternoon I phoned the contact number for the Hollywood and found that it was at the Abbotsfield Boat Shed. The E30, Hollywood, is still for sale and although there have been lookers, no takers as yet. The Ebay reserve was for $35,000.00 and the contact asked if it was the correct price, which I confirmed as being correct.
Apparently this is the second owner since we inspected her with Ralph Westbury having sold the boat to the current owner. I did not ask the reasons for the close and frequent sales.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 30 May 2007 : 7:12:47 PM
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Checking out the Boat Point web site this morning and found that it has been edited, someone is listening in!
There is now only the Mark 2, Bojangles (E30), one E27 & another Mark 2 E30, which is listed and confirmed as sold. The Splinter has not been sold but there is an interested party. Recieved an email from Kevin this morning.
And, in addition there is the Mark 1 E30, Hollywood laying at Abbotsford as well as one E28 for sale in Brisbane and another in Western Australia.
There is a total of five known big Endeavours currently for sale.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Chris Cope
Skipper
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 09 July 2007 : 3:06:46 PM
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There has been some changes to the Boat-point web site on adverts for the Big Endeavour Yachts.
The Mark 2, Vega has been sold for some months and today the Mark 2 "Bojangles" has also been listed as "sold". Only a week ago the Mark 1 "Splinter" disappeared off the site and we have not recieved any replys to emails sent to Kevin Swadling.
So it seems that there are only the two listed E27s' as well as the E28 advertised in other sites and which is located in Western Australia.
E30s' do not last long and seem to sell quickly.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 24 July 2007 : 3:19:42 PM
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This morning I rang John Anderson, who informed me that the Systems Outage is still on the hard stand but most of the work has been completed and she should go back in the water very soon. She has been re-painted with the keel having been sand blasted and rust treated as well as being all glassed in. She has a new engine and with a blade rudder arrangement.
So we hope to see Ando at the Nationals in the new Systems Outage.
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