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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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 Posted - 27 June 2006 : 4:50:16 PM
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It is a great shame that the original Endeavour moulds were lost in the Warrahgamba fire. An E26 built in composites and with a better shaped keel would be a very light & quick boat. As it is they still keep a lot of the new boats honest.
But as Rod keeps reminding me, yachting is a handicap sport.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 July 2006 : 4:28:30 PM
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Early this morning Rod & self motored down from North Harbour and around under the Harbor bridge to Berrys Bay. Here we found a very sad & neglected E30. The name on the transum had been removed & sanded over with only a faint few letters which we could identify. Even with my wife trying to enhance the photos taken it is still uncertain. The name is clearly "Lau_ _ _ _ ta" & the boats registration number is KY367N.
The boat is clearly a Mark 1 & is almost identical to our Hagar.
She was leaning slightly to starboard and there was slimy water in the gunnel tops & stains from the scuppers. The boat has clearly not been used or anyone aboard for many months or years? The main sheets were free & the boom was able to swing freely. The blue boat cover was mouldy and there was a main underneath.
There was slime and cungi growth on her bottom as well as the keel & rudder. She is riding high in the water but leaning to starboard and down by the bows. Rod is of the opinion that she does not have an engine. She is moored fore & aft with a rope going under the boats length and there is heaps of growth on these ropes. There are loose ropes in the cockpit & all the woodwork has lost its varnish.
The cockpit outer cabin was covered with intrument dials. The rig is intact, but all needs replacing and like the Hagar when we purchased her, this boat still has the backstay wheel which dates it as original. There are no cockpit controled coachouse winches. There are a pair of headsail winches as well as a pair adjacent to the mast for spinakers, as well as a few on the mast base for halliards.
The hull as stated is a Mark 1 and she looks sound & intact. However there are a lot of superficial scrapes and missing paint as well as gellcoat off the hull. The topsides are badly faded but she looks otherwise OK. Of interest is the fact that there are two anchor lockers up the bow and the forward cabin hatch has been raised with a flat hatch cover & it looks odd & out of charactor.
All this and we did not step aboard, although there were no locks on her.
Rod & I agree that she would need about $20,000.00 to bring her back with the following must do's.
Does anyone have an idea on how to trace the Registration Number and, or, do you know this boat.
I'll try and paste some photos next week if time & patience permits. We now have 18 out of the original 30 built found.
Chris.
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 08 July 2006 : 11:00:37 PM
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Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 08 July 2006 : 11:05:13 PM
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Tear before bedtime Robert! And the only sign of life was the seagulls challanging us because we came too close to the E30 home.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 09 July 2006 : 04:26:59 AM
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| If it has been neglected that badly and infested with that much growth, beware that it does not have osmosis - would not be unusual if her bum has been allowed to deteriorate thru the waterprrofing layers. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 09 July 2006 : 11:35:21 AM
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You might be correct Leigh about the underwater condition of this boat. It would need to be properly surveyed out of the water. While I've had visions of buyer her cheap and renervating he back to racing condition, the reality is that there is nowhere to hold her. If I could get her for around $10K or less and have her craned over the back fence and then work on her at my leasure it would be a fun labour of love. However it would be expensive, there are a number of large gum trees in the way and then there is the council and neighbours to contend with. Just dreaming!!
This week I'll contact the Berry Bsy Marina and enquire if she is for sale, who the owners are ect.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 10 July 2006 : 3:25:07 PM
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Have just got off the phone from the Berrys Bay Marina and it sounds like the E30 could be the "Larapinta". However the lady on the phone did not have an Endeavour 30 listed. The Larapinta was listed as an SS34. This boat is an E30!! So she has gone away to talk with the boss. She says it may not be one of theirs, but a privately owned mooring. This may be the case as the mooring float on the boat was yellow and most in the bay were red. In addition there were ropes all over the boat as well as under the water and she was badly neglected. Hoping the lady will come back with some news.
Chris.
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David
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 10 July 2006 : 8:22:48 PM
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If that fails, get the marker number off the bouy, yellow with black numbers is a good chance she is a Waterways mooring.
Contact them and they will be able to put you in contact with the owner.( you probably allready new it)
But then again doesn't the Waterways rules state that all boats on a mooring be in good condition and able to under take a voyage.
That would be the greatest load of BS to be written, every bay in the harbour has 2-3 floating reefs.
And some poor sucker paying through the nose for a comercial mooring. ( that's my dummy spit for the day).
Thats a different argument alltogether.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 July 2006 : 3:36:37 PM
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David, To tell the truth we did not think of getting the number off the bouy. It was yellow, which of course means she is a NSW Waterways private bouy. The bouys around were mainly red and smaller and they would obviously be the local Berrys Bay Marina bouys.
Rod seems to think that the boat has not been out of the water or antifouled in up to about two years as there was not a great deal of large growth, which was mainly on the ropes. And some on the rudder. We think she is the "Larapinta" which is an Aboriginal name of a nature reserve near Ayres Rock.
How is your memory Colin? What do you remember of the E30s' from when you were with the Endeavour Yacht Company?
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 11 July 2006 : 11:51:40 PM
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I remember a few 30s being built @ the Halsted St factory @ Hurstville ( before I started my appreticship) wouldn't know where or to whom they went to though.
Don't know the one in question, but as you say for the right price it could be a "labour of love"
Its possible that the boat listed is indeed the same one - the name thing is too close for it not to be! Private mooring owners list with brokers down this way all the time - most of those brokers think they know it all about boats!! - "Yeah thats an SS34 for sure - I know the owner thinks its a E30 but he knows jack sh#$" There is a certain boatshed owner most know! down here who is just like that :) Go on Chris - make an outragous offer - you never know! I'm sure SWMBO will give you her full support :) :) :)
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Ian Marshall
Sheet Hand
Australia
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Posted - 12 July 2006 : 12:27:23 AM
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Haven't seen or heard of the E30 in the paddock in the South Island.Will send new photos of ZERO BALANCE.Just had her repainted Yellow after a 6.5 tonne Ferro broke its mooring and tangled with her before going on the hard.$9000. later she looks great.Our sailing season has just started with a Line honours first up in our division,even beating home some first div boats.After a fair bit of tuning an old E30 will get up and go.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 07:22:37 AM
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Yes Colin, I'd love to get my hands on her and bring her back. However there are a number of obstacles, number one being SWMBO'd. If we lifted the E30 over the back fence, the trees wound have to go. But she'd block the sun on the cloths line, dont' you know?
Mind you it would be a great surprise for SWMBO'd when she came back from her tip from New Caledonia next month visiting the daughter there to find a new E30 siting up in the back yard!
Gee I wonder? Thanks for the idea Col.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 11:31:34 AM
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| Hey with the money you save after having bought such a bargin (ie the new 30' fibreglass back fence) you could buy her an industrial cloths dryer! just thought. |
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 12:02:20 PM
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| Do either of you larrikans need the name of a good family law practitioner in Sydney?......Jeeeez, talk about walking the line......... |
Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
676 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 1:00:35 PM
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| At least my SWMBO'd knew she married a boat builder - although you are right - it can become a very very thin line :) |
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 1:23:23 PM
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Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 2:00:48 PM
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Guys' you encourage me!? I was fortunate and got away with the painting I bought of the James Craige. She has forgiven, but keeps reminding me and no, it cannot replace the bloody her sunflowers painting. Dont' know if I'd get away with pulling the new boat surprise in the backyard stunt.
I might just ask her if I could do it for thero[:-viking]py. Dont' you know?
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 July 2006 : 9:59:18 PM
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Well this evening I ran the subject of boat building theropey in the backyard past SWMBO'd. Her reply was the effect that I never finished what I start. A triffling defficiency and a shallow blow. My reply was to the effect that it all came down to motivation and I was highly motivated by the prospect of a new big boat in the back yard to play with. Her reply was, "what about the neighbours & the council?"
My answer was of course, stuff the neighbours and screw the council. The boat will be hidden behind the house and the trees. And anyway our one neighbour died a few weeks ago!
Her answer was, "not untill you finish the house", which is a never ending love hate relationship.
But....she did not adamently say NO!!!
We will just have to see what the outcome is on this boat anyway. Most likley its' owned by someone who is like many of us and will take the boat to his grave.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman
Australia
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Posted - 13 July 2006 : 12:04:39 PM
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or want 60k for it!! still the ground work has been laid:)
I got the same (only worse) reaction when Annie came home the other week to find the garage inhabited by a 18' old ships lifeboat (double ender) bueatiful lines, next summer up the river - unreal - dear! darling! "What about the house (that old catch cry)what about this and that!!
Obviously my 35 years of boat work and the loverly thing I envisage after a winter of fibreglass dust, timber shavings and ignoring everything else - can or will not be imagined my better half - but hey onwards and upwards - I am my own man etc! ha ha only if I had the "gonads" to live by that one :) |
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