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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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 Posted - 08 February 2009 : 8:50:43 PM
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Well today's race at North Harbour SC turned out to be quite a controversial event. The word from the Handicapper was that it was Dumeresq's turn to win and he had certainly handicapped it that way notwithstanding the big blokes crying.
We gave the Dumeresq about 15 minutes start and old David went off a lot further in front of them. The breeze was a nice fifteen knot north easterly which built to about sixteen and with a few puffs to 20. We sailed a good race and going up the last work were being held off by Stuart who was dumping upon us big-time. By the time we were into the Sound we had all three yachts within 100 metres and were reeling them in. At this point we passed a dinghy which had lost it's mast and were hailing for assistance. David did the right thing and ignored them. However Stuart saw an obvious opportunity to gain points with the Hagar closing in. They hauled away downwind and stood by the boat in distress. David then weakened and also followed. Rod, who was steering the Hagar procrastinated and then also joined the "Local Heroes".
When we go closer it was more obvious that the boys aboard the Dumeresq were more motivated by the two lady crew members of the dinghy and they even got into the water to render assistance. The bloody show ponies!
The cops appeared and took over the rescue and we lined up again and re-started the race. Once we got into the flat water of Dobroyd point and had sailed out from under Dumeresq we quickly leaped away to finish first over the line amidst hawls of cheats etc, etc from the slow boats!
Upon the Handicapper finally appearing at the Club, he ruled that all yachts would be alloted equal points, ie, as equal winners.
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Dumaresq
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Posted - 09 February 2009 : 10:09:41 PM
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Controversial maybe but at the end of the day if someone is calling out for assistance it's pretty hard to sail past them especially when you pass within 25 m of them and they are in the middle of the channel.
Now I know there is always a lot of smoke that normally hangs around your boat and you probably wouldn't be able to see too far forward of the bow but, I think one needs to remind you that rule 1 in the blue book says that if requested you must render assistance which we did. Just because we are not ex skiffies and like to show off our good seamanship skills we shouldn't be harassed for it. The fact that they were sorts and Bruce was dead keen that's another matter.
Rule 2. Fair Sailing – Now I might not be bright but I’m okay at judging distances, if you rounded the mark at Taylor's bay 50 metres behind us and at the time of the incident some 15-20 mins later you were still 50 m behind us one would except that at the restart you would start 50 meters behind us? Don’t be silly we won’t beat you from there, we will restart 2 boat lengths to leeward and 3 ahead yeah good one!!.
Now I know you hate being beaten by the little 24 footer, especially in your ideal wind range but let’s face the only way you could beat us is to take advantage of situation and get a jump on us at the restart and off you go. That’s “Fair Sailing” if you ask me but hey,I'm not the one who has to live with it.
Anyway the girls were thankful they meet us at the CYCA after sailing tonight for a few beers.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 10 February 2009 : 2:25:36 PM
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Ah,
It's good to see that the fish are bighting, it has take some time though, don'tweknow. Oh, and how much of a start had the good handicapper given you, was it 15 or 17 minutes? And we were always going to get you so don't get too high horsed. And we still were carrying the old sails! Go and have a cry on the handicappers shoulder maybe he will give you another three minutes.
Although I grumble about him, he has nothing on the Manly handicapper. Not only did they finish us second last on Friday night, when we clearly took about six yachts on the last tack to the finish line, but they have given us zip for next week and we start among the 40's again. Maybe they are giving us a smokers handicap?
Chris.
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Dumaresq
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 February 2009 : 11:24:31 AM
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Well Stuart,
For someone who that has spent so little time on the water this season, you certainly are a wealth of useless information and advice, dontweknow? Try coming out and sailing the Dumeresq on Friday night with the Manly toffee nose set and see what you think of their handicapping. You won't winge about old David after a few races with them.
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Dumaresq
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Posted - 11 February 2009 : 1:07:38 PM
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Not sure what you mean by spending little time on the water,apart for racing at the CY every Monday and most Wednesday's, then every second Sunday at NHSC, LMYC Nationals, Perth Nationals, Hammo race week and now with my lastest boat the vanguard sailing a couple of times a week with the family. One doesn't always want everyone to know what they do in their life you know. I forgot to mention the liitle Halvorsen which should be back in the water soon so another boat to tinker on. How is that coming along Cole??
You never know I might see you out there this coming Friday evening and blow the pants off you again on the little 24 but then you would complain about something else other than the handicap.:)
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 11 February 2009 : 7:08:38 PM
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Stuart,
Don't loose your hair over this, you know precisely what I'm talking about and your badgering is falling upon a thick skin and selectively deaf ears, dontyouknow?
You have sailed against us only a couple of times this year and you know that the result has been in our favour even with your wining to the handicapper and an ever increasing handicap.
The solution? Get out of that floating coffin and get an E30. That way you will not only be able to keep up with us but take out you lovely family every week but also support your ever growing waist line.
See you on Friday night.
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Dumaresq
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Posted - 11 February 2009 : 10:28:04 PM
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I think the coffin is your 30 not my 24. I don't think my family would been keen on sailing such a big slow slug of a boat. I reckon the vanguard would even give that piece a run for its money.
So what's the wager for fastest around the track on Friday night? The little 24 against the big shi*ter, are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is??
I only missed the first couple of races because the dates changed and other things were in the calendar, plus one where we had a lost rudder.
Not bad you'd think with all the sailing you guy's do on that thing you'd know how to get it to go by now. We could always swap boats for a race and I could show you how to sail it. |
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4Seasons
Helmsman
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Posted - 11 February 2009 : 10:51:29 PM
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| Chris, It must feel great to be national champion of a 2 or 3 boat fleet,,,,EH |
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Dumaresq
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 12 February 2009 : 11:21:35 AM
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Hi there Eric,
Good to see that your still with us!
Now here is a question for you.
Has anyone from Gosford ever won an Endeavour Championship?
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 12 February 2009 : 11:36:13 AM
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Dear Stuart,
With your vast background of Olympic sailing experiences as well as all the offshore racing I feel sure that you could make our boat perform better than poor old skipper Rod. Just bear in mind that Rodney only began steering when he took up Endeavour yacht racing. He was always a skiff forward hand. You are always welcome to come down and have a steer of the old girl on a Friday evening.
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Dumaresq
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Posted - 12 February 2009 : 3:42:56 PM
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You sound like your giving up on the badgering mate what's going on.
No excuses skiff or vagabond fundamentals are still the same.
Not sure if I could handle sailing a bigger boat at a slower speed but thanks for the offer.
I'm not good at offshore I get sea sick very quickly. |
Stuart
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4Seasons
Helmsman
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Posted - 12 February 2009 : 9:07:03 PM
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Chris, try nats non spin title and you will see moonmist (Ron Wallace), 1996,97,98,99. GSC..you may consider the non spin div to be not impressive ,is it any less impressive than a winner in a race between one 30 footer and two 28 footers..Try the following questions (A) If you have sex with a hooker against her will, is that rape or shoplifting?????? (B)If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?????? Why do they call it an
asteroid when its in space, and hemorrhoid when its not ??????
(c) do the alphabet song and twinkle twinkle little star have the same tune , Why didyou just try singing these songs ??? EH |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 13 February 2009 : 04:19:42 AM
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I'm not interested in singing to your tune Eric. Which is an obvious smoke screen. The reason why I asked the question about any GSC members winning a National was that it may be related to the fact that it seems that most of your members seem to be very keen upon changing the Constitutions. And yes non-spinaker divisions don't stack up, as you apparently weem to agree. Is this a first for you Eric?
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4Seasons
Helmsman
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Posted - 13 February 2009 : 09:10:24 AM
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Chris, There was always more tha 3 boats in non spin in those days days,,,,,,,,,I notice you didnt answer the other questions ,,were they too hard ?????????????????????????? y
your friend EH...
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
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Posted - 13 February 2009 : 8:01:37 PM
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I feel so comforted having a friend like you Eric. You see in my game they are not as truthful as you are, I think? With regard to the number of yachts in our division, well I suppose we have just demoralised the opposition in the last couple of years. But wait!!!
There's more, dontyouknow? We are going a fair bit quicker than last year with the numbers and race results to prove it at the Nationals.
So there!! Or the E26's are going a lot slower??
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 13 February 2009 : 8:03:27 PM
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Tonight we missed the twilighter race due to work commitments by both Rod and myself. Have only just got home after a 15 hour day, dontIknow!
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4Seasons
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Posted - 13 February 2009 : 11:10:02 PM
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| I know i am going slower than i did 20 years ago , i spring the occasional burst every so often , but remember this, Mother nature and Father time are a ruthless pair so dont kid yourself that they wont catch up with you .....EH |
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Dumaresq
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Posted - 14 February 2009 : 12:23:58 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Cope
Tonight we missed the twilighter race due to work commitments by both Rod and myself. Have only just got home after a 15 hour day, dontIknow!
Chris.
So, would you like a tissue???? |
Stuart
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Edited by - Dumaresq on 14 February 2009 10:39:47 AM |
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SAILING REPORTS ON '30's
