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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 09 January 2011 :  2:16:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any old berth alongside or rafted up will be fine Colie. Alongside would be best for the lads finding their ways back to the floating mansion and afterhours bar.
Today we finished our race well and are looking forward to the racing down at the Bay.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 13 January 2011 :  09:53:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Hagar should be shoving off for Botany Bay about now. Rod, along with Ross and Roger will be doing the delivery this afternoon and should make good time with a following north easterly. They will be in at the bar by mid-afternoon with the Hagar tied up.
Myself and the rest of the motley crew will find our way there tomorrow morning. See youall there.
Chris.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman

Australia
676 Posts

Posted - 13 January 2011 :  7:36:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes arrived ok, had a few in the bar - joked and talked about Copey at length :) you sure Rods your mate!
We all watched the pirate and his rock star crew take the new vessel out! quick, real quick - looks a bit tender (no surprise there)will be hard to beat in light air if it holds together.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 14 January 2011 :  06:45:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't worry Coley,
It should blow today and the new boat might just do your trick last time down here. Just make sure that your red flag is handy and check and see that he is not being towed in because he lost his outboard over the side, dontweknow.
Don't you worry about the Hagar crew, we are as thick as thieves. Most people melt under the torrent of exchanges between the for-deck and after-deck crew members. There is one well known club member who stated that he could never sail aboard Hagar again after a simple Friday night twilighter race. Just a bit of verbal exchange and all was OK afterwards with a few beers, dontyouknow?
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2011 :  07:46:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well another year's Nationals are done and dusted and congratulations should go to the crews of Kokimo & Jeeves who won the E26 and E27+ divisions respectively, while the Dumeresque finished and went home on Sunday having already re-taken their title after four heats.

In both the E26 & E27+ divisions there was very close racing with only one point separating the competitors.
Chris.
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Go Flow
Helmsman

Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2011 :  10:47:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris,
What type of Endeavour was Jeeves?
Adrian
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2011 :  3:41:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there Adian,
Jeeves is an E27 and was the quickest in the light/drifter stuff. He was lucky with three races being light/drifters, with one race 7 to 10 knots on Sunday morning and the Friday race 20 to 28 knots. It was close, Jeeves had three wins, one third and one second, we had two wins, one second and two thirds.

The E26's were also close with Mackay and Cole sailing into a hole on the last beat to windward in the last race. Giving the series to the Kokomo as the rest of the fleet sailed around Cole & Mackay.
Mackay was up to his old tricks being towed out to the start and back by his tender each day and nobody having the backbone to call his bluff.

There were two E24's racing and after the morning heat the Dumeresque boys sailed home early.

Rod sailed home today and I went down after work to help unload and put her back on her mooring.

Chris.
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jcs
Sheet Hand

30 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2011 :  6:38:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Firstly congrats to all the winners. After hearing the rumblings about the possibly light boat and then seeing for myself how high it was floating, i think the talk of the association buying a set of scales is a good thing. At least then the winner or the second place in this case, is the same as every other boat. Does Kokomo's win mean we now have the youngest national champion crew.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2011 :  09:03:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a question which I'm interested to know the answer. Just before the Nationals Stewart gave us a single luff kite to try on the Hagar. We tested it and found that it fitted to the bow and was an almost perfect fit. It also seems to work really well.

My question is can we use it legally at Endeavour Regattas?

Unfortunately the boys tore it during the delivery to Botany Bay and it could not be used. It will go in for minor repairs this week along with some modifications to our storm mainsail, the try-sail.
Chris.
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Colin Cole
Helmsman

Australia
676 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2011 :  4:31:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you can use whatever you want on anything other than a 24 or 26 - the 27s carry a 150% genoa so why not use anything you can to win -dontyaknow! cause everyone cares how the 30 goes :)
Yeah Gav, Koko usually has 2 crew 10 years of age, one of the kids stood aside so Bruce from Ullman could "hinder" them all weekend :) they sailed well, as did Macca (even in the fresh stuff (suprised me) H&C took one for the team and sailed Macca into a hole 200metres from the finish in the last heat (he was a certain first and us second - them to win the regatta, us asured of 3rd no matter what)we parked and the rest of the fleet sailed past! they say you gotta experiance everything once - stone motherless last - but hey Grunta and Kyle and crew got up -eeeexellent :)
Greg is I beleive going to post the results any second now!!!!!!
Thanks again to all who attended it was a great weekend and we all did Reg proud - good on yas all.
If you were there and you read this why not type your story??????? - make a change from the usual suspects.
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jcs
Sheet Hand

30 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2011 :  5:52:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Col, although you know more about Endeavours than me, I think ill have to disagree with you this time. At the 2009 nats at belmont we tried to measure in an assi for the long race and we were told they were illegal. But we thought that because the spinnaker rules only state luff and foot length that we could use one. The no2 kite also has a mid girth measurement. Because the leech length is shorter than the luff length and it fitted the mid girth measurement we thought it was legal. The rules do state that you can only carry one of each sail on the boat in each race, we were happy to go with out a no2 kite. But like I said, you know more about endeavours than me. I look foward to seeing the results .Lucky there are no pro rules with endeavours, all these sail makers were once regarded as pros. But then again so is my crew Horto who is a mooring contractor, which was once regarded as a pro because they make an income from the marine industry.
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grunta
Main Sheet Hand

39 Posts

Posted - 18 January 2011 :  7:32:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Up untill the last 300m of Sunday race i was resigned to sizing up that bridesmaid dress again and finishing one off the back of the Haulnass to scrape a second in the regatta.Just how good can sailing be SOMETIMES, Macca and Conz had gapped us in the lighter stuff heading up the last beat / fetch and they were both on course for the finish with what looked like filling breeze across the course.Witchways had been sailing a great race , leading untill the last leg started, to roll us from our port quarter , so we had to defend and chase the filling breeze which took us about 50 degreese above course. We now had better pace and sitting to leeward steering i could see both chucking along , to leeward of macca about 100m was two yachts stuck in glue one lap down and i could see that hole to leeward of macca.There was a band of breeze all ahead of us then macca started to stand up and in he went , then Conz followed. Holly crap, the chasing pack were banging down we hung really high to keep Koko slipping along and around the glue pot and back down to the finish line i had sweat pouring out of every hole . Reg is our spiritual leader forever but why did you suck in your little mate Col ,what a finish to a great regatta . To join the stable of E26 winners is a fabulous honour amongst fast/furious company , we do have untill records prove , yes Gav! the youngest E26 Nat Champ crew member in Kyle and a jet of a E26 in Kokomo this titles. The crew did a great job all weekend thanks heaps boys ,a stack of prepartion all year thanks to co pilot Glynn and able seaman 2 Daniel nothing ever looked like breaking except on Friday in 25 kts trying to tear the rig / kite out on 1st shy . Had a great time all weekend win /loss/draw , great competition , Imperium beat HC 25kts with a 2/full main on Friday Col snapped kite halyard 1st shy and had a great race sunday arvo . By George Miss Conception 4th o/all fantastic work very fast boat great to see the range finder working Congrates. The fleet was strong and we all had to have a good go. Would have been great to have THE REBELS there for the regatta,my luck may only stretch so far . BByc did a super effort from its leading members and helpers ,race starters and assistance to make Reg proud his legacy is still in good hands. Very happy Endeavour owner Grunta!!
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tallships
Main Sheet Hand

132 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  3:16:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I may be stirring the pot but having had dinner with my son Philip (e24 2011 Handicap Winner) last night I feel compelled to post on his behalf the content of an email sent before the championships:

"Ahoy

The 45th Endeavour Regatta is getting close.

We have lots of sponsors and prizes galore this year, including a s****y new No 1 Headsail from Xilarate for the E24 handicap winner.

Register now and come sailing.

Cheers,

Greg Lowe

EYAA"

Why wasn't the sail presented on Sunday night?

Sh** Stirrer




Pat Marsh
e26 "Up Spirits"
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  6:31:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there Pat, and fellow S*** Stirer,
Now I've not been sailing in the Endeavour class for very long, six seasons now in the E30. And I'm not up on all the the past politics, so I just shoot from the hip so to speak. However after digging around Ive discovered that not all sailers are happy with BBSC. This is of no interest to myself whatsoever as I do not sail there and have now attended only three regattas there and normally have to scamper after the last race due to early work commitments. However I've enjoyed the regattas at Gosford and Lake Macquarie the best. The dirt that I've discovered is that there are "other sailors" who do not like BB at all and will never sail there. In fact there is one past E26 champion who has made some accusations of "cheating".

So, after that here are a couple of suggestions for serious thought for the future as we cannot change the past but work on the future.
1. Elect a Class Association Measurer and saftey officer who:
(a) sights all compeditiors Cat 7 certificate.
(b) overseas the weighing of craft &
(c) makes spot inspections of compliance.
2. Purchase the necessary equipment for the Class to weigh boats.

Good sailing,
Chris.
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4Seasons
Helmsman

723 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  7:09:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,I thought you classed Gosford as a ''swamp'',glad youve seen the light...EH
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4Seasons
Helmsman

723 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  7:23:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Manners Chris,if anyone doesnt want to sail at BBYC,GOSFORD or Timbuktoo thats their problem ....who needs them donchaknow!!!!!!!!EH
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Colin Cole
Helmsman

Australia
676 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  7:31:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Argh I could take offence as Commodore - we have a volunteer run club stuggling for numbers on a weekly basis! ALL enties for this regatta had to submit Cat 7 certificate's, weighing of craft will happen in due coarse - as per the AGM,Assoc has a duely elected technical officer i.e. me!
"In fact there is one past E26 champion who has made some accusations of "cheating".
Well best he come forward and put his name forward otherwise it is just more Copey hot air, and to those that don't like BBYC - get stuffed and don't darken our doorway again! we do our best and worked our butts off to run this regatta - which all i spoke to (they whom bothered to hang around and socialise) had a great time.
One takes umbridge at the above spray - as the rules stand there was in my optinion no breach of the rules - all equipment was carried by all boats wether you beleive it or not - tough titties - maybe this past champ should get a 26 and compete in a standard that is tougher than any other decade.
The #1 headsail is with the association - as we BBYC and the Assoc decided it was not going to be presented with the poor turn out of 24s - the thought was to hold it till a fairer competition occurs in that class.
Colin Cole
Commodore BBYC
ps. this is a mighty fine line your on Chris.
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4Seasons
Helmsman

723 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  10:16:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WELL SAID COLIN,As usual its the ones who've done the least who makes the the most noise, who needs them...as you know i did use the word 'cheat' i only wish i was able to claim to be an ex e26 title holder...I'm thinking of changing the name of my boat to ''Winnamaka'..we make wins for the rest of the fleet by staying behind them...We worked hard up here last time only to hear 'the voice' describe Brisbane Water as a swamp.....maybe we should move to the more elite? waterways with Parramatta Rd type traffic...maybe the influences there could teach us some manners???????? EH
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tallships
Main Sheet Hand

132 Posts

Posted - 19 January 2011 :  10:37:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info Colin and the support given to Philip to get on the water however on behalf of my son I must "cry foul".

Was the decision not to award the sail made public? ie: posted on the regatta notice board.

If not, does this mean that the word of the EYAA can not be trusted! (sorry Greg). No mention of dependant on entries in the email.

On a happier note we (son,crew & myself)made the comment that, in our opinion, your club is what a sailing club should be, not one that is beholden to poker machines and driven by a large social membership such as GSC.

A real sailing club for real sailors!

Looking for a larger paddle.

Pat Marsh
e26 "Up Spirits"
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Colin Cole
Helmsman

Australia
676 Posts

Posted - 20 January 2011 :  06:03:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A committee desision, no need for posting on the notice board - as prize giving does not relate to regatta change of sailing instruction.
Would Philip if he had won the sail donated it to Nick the guy who gave him a boat on short notice to compete? if not how would that have fostered the Association?
I would like to think we don't enter regattas just for what prises are on offer!
Whilst I thank Phil for the comments as Comm and cheif organiser of the event I can not back away from decisions made - we beleive we made them in the best interest of the Assoc - besides it just means more prizes available to GSC next year.

Please Pat put the paddle down for a while - I feel as though I'm being bludgioned to death :)
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