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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2005 :  07:39:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris, Maybe you could fit a flattening reef to the old main until you get a new one. We had one on a half tonner I sailed on before the owner got new sails and it worked well in combination with cunningham use. Not sure if you have seen one before, but it just provides some "outhaul" a bit of the way up the sail and takes some of the bag out. Just need an eye put in to run a line through.
Sounds like the backstay system works fine. I guess new sails are on that never ending list of boat owners "wants" that all seen to compete with each other!! Those beat looking moulded ones cost like sin, but drive like sin as well!!

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2005 :  3:49:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Leigh, At this stage we are having the mainsail re-cut to have the lower portion of the sail flattened as it is baggy. Next year we will be on the market for a new mainsail. And we have not looked at reefing yet. I do believe that we have a stormsail etc. The boat came with a big wardrobe of sails, however they are all very old. The boat was we believe well set up to race, whereas most of the other E30s' which we looked at were primarily cruisers.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2005 :  4:04:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are no races for the Hagar IV for the next two weekends & like Bon Doobie we will be getting into cruising mode for the next few weeks. As mentioned we will be about the harbour for the New Years festivities. In addition we will most likely be going up to Pittwater on New Years day afternoon/evening. Stay at the Royal Motor Yacht Squadron overnight & go out and following the start of the Pittwater to Coffs Harbour Race. Old Peter our Club Commodore is aboard the Marloo which is racing to Coffs Harbour.
If the weather is kind we will sail as far as one of the Islands up the coast & come home under spinaker, getting into Sydney on the evening of Monday the 2nd. Is anyone going that way?
Chris
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2005 :  8:06:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kevin,
Rod wishes to contact you about the Batmans Bay Regatta. Are you going and what events, where are you staying, when are you going ect. I cannot get away from work during the week & Rod is on Holiday for all of January....bloody public servants!!!
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 26 December 2005 :  10:55:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For anyone who does not know where it is, here is the link to the Rolex Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race:
http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/editorial.asp?key=527
At 11.00pm it looks like the big three have cleared out & Alpha Romero has a handy lead. However funny things happen in this race as we saw last year & it aint' over till the fat lady sings.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 30 December 2005 :  09:07:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is interesting to note that the Mumm 30, Tow Truck crossed the finishing line at Hobart in the Sydney To Hobart early this morning in 41st across the line, mid fleet. She was surrounded by 38 to 47 footers & beat a lot of bigger yachts in conditions which were unfavourable to what is basically a day sailing boat. Earlier in the race she was leading on handicap.
Chris.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 30 December 2005 :  12:34:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't forget the Melbourne-Hobart. Yesterdays finish was a ripper with the first four boats crossing within a couple of hours. You can see the finish line from the end of the piers in Hobart (same finish line as Sydney race uses). Old Helsal II was first across (66ft), followed shortly by Gusto (open 60), but then not too far behind was Tassie boat Quetzalcoatl (Jones 40), then Tevake II (Radford 13.6). I just came back from down there this morning - all but two of the boats (32-34 ft) are now in and they will be in today. New Morning II (NS38) and By Order Of The Secretary (Cavalier 37) have also done well on handicap in Cock of the Bay and Melb to Hobart. Just the King Of The Derwent race on the 2nd of January to go to complete the Sovereign series. It is still nice to see that you don't have to have a big budget or own a million dollar boat to be allowed to go ocean racing (most are on very tight budgets, some with dacron sails) - most of the 80 odd boats tied up on the Sydney to Hobart side of the dock in Hobart have lots of carbon fibre! Still, it is awesome to see 96 foot state of the art canting keelers in port all tied up together. For anyone keen on sailing, Hobart is the place to be at this time of the year!!. The annual Sailing South Week regatta kicks off on the 2nd as well (uses the King Of The Derwent as the first race). By the way, speaking to some of the guys yesterday and today, all reported fast reaching/running, but tight seas that you had to take care not to run up the back of the next wave in. Quite a few shredded sails, but lots of smiling faces with a couple fo extra days to socialise in the bars at the waterfront now the race was so quick!

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 30 December 2005 :  2:03:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Show us the photos Leigh!

Chris
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 30 December 2005 :  7:51:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should have thought to take some overall photos of the whole dock area to put on here - the masts on the four big ones just tower above everything else, but there is enough boats down there to keep any yachtie busy drolling for hours!
The media coverage here in Hobart is huge for both races (front page for Sydney line honours winner and several pages each day for other stories plus usually the back page), I guess you tend to forget it is lucky to make the News elsewhere!
For Melbourne Hobart pics try http://www.orcv.org.au/ and hit gallery/races/hobart.
For Sydney pics use the Rolex link above and look at page one of the gallery - one shot show a small bit of the crowd wating for Wild Oats and another the spectator fleet as it finished.
Sorry I can't bottle the atmosphere and send it to you all!
Needless to say, the waterfront pubs are doing a roaring trade (but not to me - I am back here on shift until holidays start on the 4th - then I will probably do a delivery back up to Melbourne).

Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 01 January 2006 :  12:15:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Happy New Year to all.
Last night the Hagar Owners celebrated the new year in North Harbour, having had to sail back from under Bradleys Head.
The story was one of adventure & a series of failures, which was regretable and ruined what should have been a great night.
We steamed down to Bradleys and got there at around 7.30pm, found a spot amoung hundreds of other craft & put out the anchor. We were then joined by some relatives who were in a Cav 28 & rafted up with us. We broke out the food & drinks and began to party. There were 11 people on board. As the 9.00pm fireworks started we noticed that our anchor was slipping. It suddenly broke loose when we were hit by a series of big gusts and we were rapidly dragging the anchor. The other boat cast off & we fired up the motor so we could move back up wind to our original spot. However the engine died & after several attempts refused to start. By this time were were being taken by the wind and were being blown broardside downwind. We had to push off a number of craft which we come into contact with and then Rod pointed her down wind and we sailed under bare pole through the fleet of spectator craft as the fireworks were going off all around. We had removed all but one jib, the Number 4 which we then hoisted & sailed out from under Bradleys & across towards Rose Bay.
After tacking under the jib we hoisted the main & put in the second reef as it was blowing around 18 knots & was gusting. By the time we got to the sour & pigs we had to shake out the reef with the wind going light. We reached North Harbour in time to see the Manly as well as the city fireworks displays & celebrated the New Year. We ghosted back into the moorings & retreated to the Club. When were were safely back on the mooring & the womenfolk were off we tried the motor, and of course it started first time.
The Hagar does not like women on board, they must be unlucky!
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 04 January 2006 :  4:14:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last weekends trip to see the Pittwater to Coffs Harbour race unfortunatly did not eventuate with the forcast of a southerly buster as well as pressures from the SWMBOds' also having an effect.
However this Friday night the Manly YC twiligher races recommence and the Hagar IV will again venture forth to do battle. And, after the last race second on handicap we find ourselves back to an 18.15hours start. Well back in the fleet.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2006 :  9:52:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have just returned from North Harbour and ended the week with a sail in the Manly YC twilighter.
This evenings race was a groundbreaker as father & son sail for the Hagar boys. Rod had Micheal & I had my son Alexander. It turned out to be a bit of an adventure for the lads with Sydney Harbour turning on one of those four seasons, 360 degrees and a range of wind strengths. It started out a drifting northeaster and died with the fleet becoming becalmed at the wedding cake and then steadily swinging from the northwest to the southwest. There was practically no stage when we were on a work and as we went around what become the top mark at Chowder Bay we were running back down the harbour after running to the Weddingcake. The breeze steadily filled in and by the time we were in The Sound it strengthened to around 26 knots and gusts to 30. We had the full main and number 2 header poled out. We clocked a top speed of 8.1 knots. There were boats all around in trouble and a few were rounding up. The Hagar stormed downwind in fine style and was as safe as houses. Unfortuneatly we were in the back of the fleet with the bigger and lightweights having cruised away in the light stuff. The Hagar certainly performed well with a bit of breeze.
Chris.
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Go Flow
Helmsman

Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2006 :  10:09:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris,
Have you calibrated your speedo yet? My feeling is that is reading a shade on the high side. I believe you would need to crack a wave to get to this speed.
Adrian
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Rod1950
Main Sheet Hand

39 Posts

Posted - 06 January 2006 :  11:51:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Adrian, I had my Garmin e-trex on from Manly to the eastern wedding cake, checking the log and what effect we had with the tide.

The GPS was the same or within .3 of a knot as the Log.

By the way, I could not pick up any effect of the tide.

Also I have not had a chance to make it up your way as yet, I will give you a call to-morrow.

Regards

Rod
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 07 January 2006 :  08:39:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hullo Adrian,
Looking forward to meeting you at the nationals. Rod & Andy calibrated the speed log some weeks ago after Rod spent a long time tracking down the manufacturers. We reset the speed log as well as the depth from their information supplied. However the wind direction instrument is NBG and we will be having a technician from Navman look at it in a few weeks when they are all back at work. The boat speeds appears to be reasonably accurate as Rod has checked it on a number of outings against his handheld GPS instrument. It is usually accurate to within 0.1 of a knot but does bounce around by up to 0.3 of a knot and this is most likely due to the delay from the GPS.
Yesterday with a filling southerly behind us we were running at 6 & 7 knots and got up to 8.1 knots in 20 to 26 & gusts to 30 knots. There was a light swell in the Sound at the entrance of the harbour. We did not check the speed whilst running home at the higher speeds, had our hands full. Rod checked it on the first run down to the Wedding cake and the boats instrument was accurate to within 0.1 of a knot compared to the Hand held GPS.
Chris.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman

Australia
258 Posts

Posted - 11 January 2006 :  2:43:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finished work at 8pm on 3/1/05 and at 10am the next morning left on one of the Melbourne-Hobart boats (Tevake II - Radford 13.6) to to help crew it back to Melbourne. Little breeze in the Derwent, but some nice breeze after we got down around Cape Raoul, across around Tasman Island and up the East Coast of Tassie. The boat unfortunately had a shredded carbon main so the most we could have up was two reefs, also the No2 and asymmetic kite were damaged on the race to Hobart and out of use. So we had a No1 and No3. You don't need too much breeze to get the boat going at 6-8 knots (even with the main like we had) and by the time you get 12-14 knots, she is doing 9's or more. Keel draws 10 foot 8 in down position and the crew reported a max 25.4 knots downhill during the race. Went from Hobart around Tasman and into Lady Barron on Flinders in 30 hours, spent over night there (a few quiet ones at the tavern), then off to Melbourne with very little breeze (some sailing, but lots of motoring). Only the second time I have seen Bass Strait this quiet, so nice trip up past all the islands that stretch between the NE tip of Tassie to Wilsons Prom in Vic. Then I did a quick lap around the brokers in Vic to chase up a Northshore 38 for me (yes - still looking, but did get a couple of leads), then back on a cheap flight to Hobart. A nice way to start holidays!!
Just for Chris, some photos. This trip is very picturesque with no more than around 35 miles between islands all the way across the paddock. The view from the bar at the Lady Barron tavern is spectacular - right across the small islands in Franklin Sound and over to Cape Barren Island.

The Potboil on eastern entry to Lady Barron (area of very high tides - check the "boil" out).
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8.2 knots apparent on a broad reach - boat doing 7's under double reefed main and no headsail
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Hydrographic survey mark on Lady Barron wharf
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Tied up at Lady Barron
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Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 14 January 2006 :  10:22:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last nights twilighter at Manly was a very mixed swinging east to south easterly breeze and ranged in wind strengths from zero to 12 knots. We started well but the first leg was a drag to Lady Bay. Then we were forced past a mark by a starboard boat who allowed half a dozen other craft between the two of us and the mark. Some sailors are not smart. He then ran over a log of driftwood which was apparently caught about his keel or rudder. The race became a parade with no works and we ended up coming in the back of the fleets. There was driftwood across the harbor and I was told that there is a lot out at sea as well. So anyone coming down the coast should keep their eyes open.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 15 January 2006 :  7:33:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Todays race at North Harbour was slow, with a very light easterly which came & went with frustrating irregularity. We were short on crew with only old Pete & myself. Even with the light breeze it was hard work. However old Pete was amazing, (he's in his 60s')hoisting & pulling down kites single handed as well as working the jibs, and as I said to him back at the club, there was no one to get in the road, no abuse and we just got on with it. Unfortunatly we started at the wrong end of the line and parked for about ten minutes until the breeze came our way. The two light weights shot through and it took us until the last leg until we caught up on them. And they only just got too the line in frount of us.
It was a good warm up for the Nationals & everything worked.
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 24 January 2006 :  1:44:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Hagar IV performed admirably during the Nationals and we steadily improved with a result of three seconds & two firsts. Well done to Warren Eggins & the boys in the Rhumline who beat us by one point in the big boat races.
For us it was the crew work and not the boat which let us down. We have not raced together with only Pete & myself having been in any racing.
The surprise was the E28 Scotch Mist who also improved and did very well in the last two races, well done for a new boat.
Ando needs to get a bigger boat!
Chris.
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Chris Cope
Skipper

Australia
2350 Posts

Posted - 25 January 2006 :  5:21:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well its' back to North Harbour racing for the Hagar IV, a twilighter this Friday night with family & friends. On Sunday we have a North Harbour Club Race. And tomorrow, being Australia Day we will go out cruising with the families if the weather is fine. We might even catch up with Leigh from Tasmania who is scheduled to push off down the coast from Pittwater in his new Northshore 38.
Chris.
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