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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
 Posted - 02 October 2006 : 4:24:39 PM
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FORWARD PLANNING:
For some time I have been pondering where I could re-build an old E30. See earlier postings on the Fibre Glass Fence episodes.
And now, quite recently our elderly neighbour cast off to better waters and now his two kids wish to sell the property.
I have convinced SWMBO'd that it would be a great investment, which it most likely will turn out to be so. Hoewever our two adjoining properties are have large land areas. And with two street access its a perfect opportunity to have the space to achieve my covernent desires. Will keep you-all posted at to the progress.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 16 October 2006 : 6:41:29 PM
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Over the past weekend I was obliged to take SWMBO'd for a little country trip. We went down to Cootamundra in the Riverina. A very nice country town where we have a number of friends.
It was also opportune that the Hagar was out of commission at this time with Rod removing the port side lower chainplate.
Now in some past postings I came under some fire for my strong objection of racing with women aboard a boat. Well..., over the weekend our bowman, Roger who sails in a 16 footer at Manly with his Dad and brother was without that there old man. And so Rog decided that his girlfriend, the one who lost our $150.00 new kite bag and stuffed up another kite hoist at the Drummoyne Regatta, would be a good replacement. And so while on the beach when tensioning up the rig, with the wrong forestay they ripped their 16 foot skiff in two with the tensioner.
Women are just bad luck around boats.
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LCJOHNSTON
Helmsman
Australia
258 Posts |
Posted - 16 October 2006 : 7:02:42 PM
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Chris, It is all in the training - and is probably an inditement on the trainer if a crew member doesn't get it right! Louise is a better hand than a lot of blokes I have sailed with. She does the pit on the NS38 when we race - lots of tweaking needs to happen with the halyards, outhaul, vang etc' and she has picked it all up well. Has also raced for years on a fractional 27 footer with runners - they wouldn't be without her on board - she gives as much stirring as she gets. There are lots of useless blokes about on boats as well (I am sure everyone has met a few of them!)
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Leigh Ex E30 MkII "Caroline" Hobart |
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Splinter
Helmsman
Australia
500 Posts |
Posted - 16 October 2006 : 7:04:32 PM
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Chris, I think you have been demorilised. I have two "Splinterettes" and we love them. One is on the foredeck and the other runs the clutches. I am blessed with my two lovely crew members. Conversation is great, getting crew, NOT a problem and lunch "very interesting" we love it. I think you should either re think you position or get a younger crew member to get a bit of quality control on Hagar.
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
269 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 12:38:23 AM
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I have done a few Melb Hobarts with female crew and no problem... They were just as capable as the guys in fact one was a lot more capable. Then when we got to Hobart the female showers were woefully inadequate so they just came into the mens .. They had a great time in the communal shower.
Cheers
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Owner of Charissa
Pictures at http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/akkeir/Charissa/ |
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 11:59:44 AM
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| Thats disgusting....Eric H. |
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 11:59:44 AM
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Leigh, I agree, it's all in the selection and training, although a crusty old salt did say to me once never have more than one woman on a racing yacht.......Splinter, you seem to have overcome that hurdle. Women definitely do multitask better than most men, so are admirable in cockpit organisation. They do lack in general shoulder strength, so can be found wanting in depowering, but hey, who wants women who look like All Black props? I don't know about you Easterners, but there are a lot more women in competitive sailing over here in the past 5-10 years, and some of them are bloody good. Kevin your comment on "younger" crew and quality control was a ripper........I suspect the old chasp is gobsmacked!!
Rob |
Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Robert Simmons
Helmsman
Australia
420 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 12:04:27 PM
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What Eric, that the showers were u/s or that the lads shared theirs?
Did you notice our previous posts were at exactly the same time?
Rob |
Drink wine, and you will sleep well. Sleep well, and you will not sin. Avoid sin, and you will be saved. Ergo, drink wine and you will be saved.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 1:38:39 PM
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Well I dont' care what goes in in your cock-pits! But the Hagar is a racing machine and no place for the fairer sex. They are OK to take out for a day sail, but when the conditions get tough then most of them will just get in the way. I have one wife and three teenage daughters, as well as a son. And while all three daughters have expressed the wish to race with us, and most likely would be OK in the light, I prefer the company of men and like to get away from home and their correct ways.
Most of the comments seen to be coming from inexperieced in father daughter relationships.
I suppose I am just digging myself in deeper!
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 4:51:24 PM
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| Nobody in their right mind would want to shower with some of the dragons that have crewed on my boat (or should that read crude) ) |
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Barubi
Main Sheet Hand
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Posted - 17 October 2006 : 4:59:09 PM
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My male crew (sons and nephew) became unavailable for twilight racing, so we're now doing Saturdays instead of Wednesdays. My SWMBO'd knows that I'm a nicer person to live with after a mid-week sail, so she's recruited three of her female friends (mother, daughter and a Kiwi) as my crew for the twilights. Two have experience, but they're all petite, so I plan to use the number 2 and do the deck work myself. I think that the fairer sex bruise more easily than blokes, or perhaps I just worry more about hurting them.
It was my SWMBO'd who gave me our sails as a wedding anniversary present and is arranging her 50th birthday party to fit in with the Gosford regatta. |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 6:29:42 PM
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In any event, I have no desire to shower with crew members and I believe that you are leading us into troubled waters Eric. I'm a bit of Rhett Butler and dont' give a.... Rod and now with great enthusiasm I belive Andy, will support me in keeping the Hagar pure and uncluttered with women trying to infiltrate a mans' world.
Throughout history women have been bad luck on yachts and ships.
Now there is the story, all too true, of Rodney & his SWMBO'd taking out one of her girl friends for a cruise aboard the Hagar Too E26 some years ago. Rod went below to the call of nature and while away his SWMBO'd was steering and explaining to her friend the finer points of yacht sailing and the importance of keeping clear of marks and then drove the Hagar up upon the Fairlight reef. She had sailed inside the reef pole mark.
It was an expensive little exersize and almost cost them the boat. Perhaps that is why the old Hagar went so bloody quick afterwards?
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
269 Posts |
Posted - 17 October 2006 : 11:55:28 PM
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We won the Melb Hobart with female crew. On a long ocean race you dont have space for passengers. Forget about the gender of the sailor , The gender of a sailor is immaterial, its the skill of the person that matters, I have sailed with some drop kick blokes, that I would not want to trust with my safety, Why should all this attention be given to those sailors who happen to be female. You should really grow up and look at people as individuals rather than making rash generalisations about all female sailors. (How would you like to sail a racing trimaran solo around the world in record time)
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Andrew |
Owner of Charissa
Pictures at http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/akkeir/Charissa/ |
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doc
Main Sheet Hand
Australia
146 Posts |
Posted - 18 October 2006 : 12:13:44 AM
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Yeah, but we don't want to grow up, that's why we muck around with boats  . I've tried the high moral stance with CC, but it's like water off a duck's proverbial. Might as well give up and go along with the banter.
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Steve (Echo)
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. |
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akeir
Helmsman
Australia
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4Seasons
Helmsman
723 Posts |
Posted - 18 October 2006 : 9:46:51 PM
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| While you fellas are bagging your SWMBO's, dont forget that they are probably your greatest asset. I had mine for 44 great years until cancer took her from us and theres nothing on earth i wouldnt do to bring her back if it was possible,remember , YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUVE GOT TILL ITS GONE...............Eric ..H |
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 18 October 2006 : 10:44:14 PM
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Well said Eric. My reading of relationships is that many of us have the mid-life crisis problems with our spouses and then when all the hormones settle down we should have a nice quiet late life.
How is the boat and new mast coming along?
We should have our new shroud plate by Thursday afternoon, we hope, and plan to re-install it on Sunday morning.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 18 October 2006 : 10:44:55 PM
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Well said Eric. My reading of relationships is that many of us have the mid-life crisis problems with our spouses and then when all the hormones settle down we should have a nice quiet late life.
How is the boat and new mast coming along?
We should have our new shroud plate by Thursday afternoon, we hope, and plan to re-install it on Sunday morning.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 14 November 2006 : 5:57:19 PM
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On a number of occasions now old Pete, our sailing master has told us about the Burke Factory Outlet. And as I have need of a new pair of sailing shoes as well as a pray jacket I ventured forth yesterday afternoon to find this el-cheapo shop. Without much difficulty I found their warehouse at 1/4 Clive St., Rydelmere. They had an office and small display room at the front. Much of the clothing is old season, but mostly half price or less then Whitworths etc. They also had many of the brand names. There was not much that caught my eye, but I procured a spray jacket for $50.00 which is marked at arounf $75.00 at Whitworths.
It was worth the look with pleanty of the top end off shore gear as well as the brand boat shoes.
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Chris Cope
Skipper
Australia
2350 Posts |
Posted - 16 January 2007 : 3:29:32 PM
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While coming home from the Nationals on Sunday afternoon, I was accompanied by Old Pete, our Sailing Master and terror of the foredeck. Pete recounted the tail of the 48 footer yacht on which he races and the problem with women on boats. It seems the skippers bimbo girlfriend, when she come up on deck to take her watch appeared in a new and different outfit each and every watch. In addition, when she went off watch she took a shower. And sooo, before they were half way to Coffs Harbour the boat was empty of H2O.
All they had were a few bottles. Pete is trying to curtail his sailing adventures aboart the big Jarkin.
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What E30 Crews get up to?
